Consumed

speaking of growing up, did you seriously just quote shawn michaels?... and /t tony i didnt call anyone any names? ... i said he kissed jono's ass, because jono being lvl 33 and him being under 30 he would have gotten owned. Now that its the otherway around walt seems to think he is superior to all. and back to growing up, look at the top members in your clan tony... ... and to quote such a mature industy, professional wrestling, suck it tony....

and as for the rest of your post walt, trying to defend the fact that thieves are overpowered, i could care less what equipment you have. i have dex mod's too, as does jono, and i dont care what you have to say, my opinion about the matter will not change... the fact of the matter is that i know how the game works, and i dont see this changing... considering all staff has thieves now, i dont see them being nerfed like they should be... mages were, and thieves were made better, it would have been more fair if neither of these changes had not been made...

Ah see why should i have to bring along 3-4 players to pk when a thief can simply click me himself?....
And no sorry cant wait till they get low on hp... cuz with dotw thieves never leave healthy

kk we did a little experiment.....
Achilles is a Male Elf Grandmaster Class I Sorcerer. He looks normal, very wise, fast, and very sexy. In one hand he holds a Cobalt Birthday Cake, the other a Wooden Bracers. He is wearing a Robe of Storms, and a Silver Diadem protects his head. Around his neck sits a Hades Amulet. He has a Baron's Bracelet and a Baron's Bracelet around his wrists. He is wearing a Ring of Thunder, a Platinum Wedding Ring, a Platinum Wedding Ring, a Platinum Wedding Ring, and Spider Gauntlets on his hands. His feet are protected by Vindicator's Boots. He is a Founder of Ðëådlÿ ££îäñçë and he is in a healthy condition.

334hp and 160ac when spelled....

Ryan used a lvl 33 theif (Alias) with Dos.... 10 assassinates unhanced/hanced/rf ..... yeah after this i decided Achilles will rot on lvl 35
Unhanced: 260... 261... 225... miss... 265... miss... 278... 264... 225... miss. (out of 334hp.... those hits hurt)
Hanced : 300.... 316.... 290.... 315.... clicked.... 327.... 316.... 331... clicked.... miss
RF/Hance: click... 252... click.... miss... click... click...257... 282... 255... miss

Yeah only time ive messed with 7 stam thief was walt in petes and he clicked me (unhanced) 3 times ina row....

There is no upperhand to not running out of stam, because u get clicked b4 u invis anyway ;D
Raylen hit it perfect

Ok, first off this is ryan, not jono… As for the comments gaddy and rob have made, they are totally beside the point… hitting and invising with 5stam+1 for vis will work..but in order to kill them you have to use another round of beam, and probably still wont kill… thus getting clicked.. And that’s even if u get the second round off, or for that matter get invis after the first round… and as for going pking with 4 chars that’s insanely unfair to the class… along with absorb bracelets and the raise of min assassinate… and jonos post pretty much sums up my exact thoughts… dotw makes it nearly impossible to wait for low hp… and whats low for a thief with 400-420hp?..when u can hit around 360 with perfect round… besides the test I did with jono I did a test with freedom.. Lvl 32... Took 6 rounds b4 I rounded it… and that’s at 32..once at 35 it will be in an army of 35 thieves against the once in a while 6stam mage… everyone knows the reasons for this, being dotw, cost of mana, and overall easier to train a thief… thus mages should if anything be slightly stronger than thieves... not easily be ownd by them... lastly, rob, you havnt played in quiet some time… you don’t really get how overpowered thieves are…

1 more cr for the moment... would really like spyglass

either way he just claimed to roll them all..and i dont care if i have 3mill currently.. i got 1.6 3 crs boh and i could borrow from jono... so byte meh... and i heard from a pretty good source that tony is, well, you know...

besides.... they said that this is the price for thieves.. im sure mages/druids will be relatively cheaper(1millish)...and in my opinion rangers should be a should be somewhere in between considering how easy it is to get gristle token...