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#1 Eamon

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:30 AM

As some of you may know by now, I stole some characters from a good friend of mine, Donna (Heart_Less). I changed the names of all her crits, and of all my crits, and moved them to one account this morning. I went to work, and, upon returning, the account was banned. Ben (Tweaq) had talked to Oracle.

I feel bad about all of this, so, I gave the account name and pass to Ben, and am giving Ben and Donna all of my crits as well as hers back.

I never thought I would stoop to the level of hurting my friends, and ruining my own pride, to make myself stronger on a game. Which of the two are really more important? Being stronger on a gd game, or having friends that can trust you to be honest. I realize that I will never be trusted on Nightmist again, and I dont expect anyone to trust me ever again. I realize that Donna will never forgive me for this, and that is something I will accept.

I realized today that this game is messing with my head. I was more worried about being able to make more gold, being able to pk more people, than I could before. I hurt one of the only people on the game that trusted me, in the years that I have played. I am writing this to tell all you people that have trust and honor, to preserve it, it is not something that is easy to earn, and something that is too easy to ruin. Dont let power get to your head. It is not worth it.

I dont think I will be logging onto Nightmist anymore. I dont want to play a game that caused me to ruin a friendship that had been great for more than a year. And JLH, Wes, and Simon, if you read this, Its not your fault, it is my own. It was my own greed and selfishness that caused me to do this, and I realize that what I did was wrong. When My brother Ant (Pastor_Troy) quit, it was because he was tired of all the bs on Nightmist. Everytime there is a new adjustment to Nightmist, it seems like the only point of it is to make the strong stronger. With every new area, comes new items, and it seems like it is always the people with 20 archs that monopolize the area. players like me have not stood a chance in the high xp training areas, and so the strong train their crits at about three times the rate I train mine at, so as I get stronger, their strength triples.

It may sound as though I am whining, flame me if you wish, I dont care anymore.

To all the people that have kept me company through the years, you know my msn, keep in touch. To all the people that pked me every chance they got, constantly harassing me and all that, you won. You finally managed to get me to ruin one of the best things I had in nightmist. Friendship and Honesty. This has ultimately led to my decision that attempting to get better at nightmist is impossible. No matter how much you train, you can never catch up to the next person stronger than you.

I should have quit when my brother did. I see now why he did decide to quit.
Nightmist is a half and half community. Half of Nightmist is respectable, and fun to be around. The other half are the thieves, and the people that harass people that are only trying to train. The people that bully up on noobies. Today, I became one of the latter group, when I stole from a good friend of mine.

It has been a fun few years, and thanks to all of you that stood by my side until now. I wont forget the good times, and I have a feeling that even if I stayed, I wouldnt ever forget this either.

So to all of you, I say goodbye.

#2 Sexy Nikki

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:38 AM

Take Care, Paul... You'll be missed...

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:41 AM

I stole some characters from a good friend of mine

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#4 InTerNalChaoS

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:43 AM

Way 2 step up :P
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#5 Elemental

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:45 AM

I know most others wi'll be like "Rawr rawr you suck, lying thief" But, I actually think you're genuinely sorry, just sucks that you couldn't see how theft, even if an account is basically handed to you wrecks friendships.

Good luck with whatever you do, i'll be keeping in contact with you, weither you like it or not.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:46 AM

Bah :P
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:48 AM

Paul I am really disappointed in you.Of everyone in this game i never though you would be the one to steal from Donna or I. I am hurt and confused right now because of this, you explained it to me but i still don't understand your way of thinking when this happened.We've known each other for over a year now.I just can't believe you would be the one to ruin the little faith that i had left in the NightMist community.I am sorry to have to say this but from here until we quit the game noone will be trsted ever again.As for you Paul, Goodbye and I hope you lead a good life from here on in.We we're great friends if you think about it, now we're strangers passing in the street,Laterz Man...


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#8 Lich

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:53 AM

OK i have always been one of the first ones to flame someone who stole but you know wat not this time. He did give the crits back and he said he saw what he did was wrong, after reading that entire thing I cant find anything to say in a flame. Nor will i try.

Good Luck i hope you do come back and i hope maybe just maybe you learned something and wont do it ever again, Maybe the friends you did steal from will forgive and ry to save a friendship over a stpid choice.
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#9 Eamon

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:54 AM

I want everyone to know that I dont expect any of you to feel sorry for me, I actually expect you all to hate me as much as most thieves are hated.

I made a mistake, and before I leave Nightmist, I am going to fix the error I made wrong. I do not ask forgiveness, nor do I ask not to be remembered as a thief. That is something I have never been until today, and as far as I am concerned, after what I did this morning, I realized this game has ceased to be fun like it was when I was a noob. I am sure there are other games out there.

Like I said, the few of you that have not already deleted me from msn, I will see you on there though.

I might check forums once in a while, out of boredom, but as soon as Donna has all the characters, Peace out to logging in anymore.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:57 AM

i care

#11 Lady_Maha

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:57 AM

Well Paul, I don't know what to say really.

I am shocked that you stole after we tried together to help people who got stolen from, and you know what I think about thieves. At the same time I am glad you realized you messed up and gave the stuff back and admitted to your mistake.

In giving back the stuff and your own you corrected that mistake, so aside from being disappointed that you did it in the first place I am not going to think any less of you, because I know you don't have the complete selfishness it takes to be a thief.

I do however have a few words to say on your outlook on the game.

I still consider myself one of the newer players, since the "old players" are those who can talk about pre-reset times. I know that I am nowhere near some of those players crit/item wise, yet I can enjoy the game even when I get pked, and have managed to piece together an account of decent level crits with decent equipment and I continue training.

Personally I think it is all about how much effort you put into training, and that you never forget it's just a game. Of course I get mad too when one of my crits gets killed, but in the end I laugh about it and actually became friends with a load of the people who used to make my noob days hell.

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#12 Crane

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 12:59 AM

An honourable confession. It is good you admitted your wrongdoing.

Nightmist is a parasite to the mind; even I am already feeling its effects, especially when it comes to making more gold - and I am not liking it either.

Sorry it had to end this way for you; you are still a friend in my eyes Eamon, and you proved it so by realising your sin and feeling guilt, and then drawing up the courage to stand forward to apologise and redeem yourself.

Best of luck with the path of life you choose to walk and what lies ahead.
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#13 Exodia

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:11 AM

Least he gave em back, i hate having to hunt ppl...

I am named "nm's biggest thief" (well WAS).. And i dont have a problem with people hating me, if u do whats right (which u have).. then people should forgive you, not give u account passes, but at least remain friends with you, people make stupid choices, its in our nature.

GL with life and stuff, i still think your a nub, but hey, u did what was right, isnt that the moral of the story?
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:16 AM

Prolly just want himself unbanned
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:16 AM

I'm very sorry to this this happen. Ben was my first Rp husband on game. before I left that to marry Will/Anarchy on game and nearly lost my friendship to ben and donna for it. I'm sorry to see that such a simple thing a game. Can make friends turn thier back to other friends. I've been accused of alot on this game. Theft ison't one of them. Because Why do that when it doens't take but a week to train a character up if you have the convictions. I sincerely hope you learn from this. But like so many others I guess the saying of "the proof is in the pudding" holds true. I knew you on game and used to come and help you if you ever needed it. I wish you would have come to someone before doing this. So it could have been avoided.
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#16 Crane

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:19 AM

Prolly just want himself unbanned

If he is quitting, I doubt that. Eamon is coming to terms with a guilty conscience, even if it makes no difference with his position on Nightmist.
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#17 Vër§íðñ 1.0

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:33 AM

I've known you for a couple months. You we're always fun to talk to in friend chat. I guess I will see you later. Out of all the thieves, i've ever seen what you did right here was the best thing I've ever seen a thief do. I'm proud that you did this, and with a little hard work you'll be able to come back to the game, if you want.
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#18 Eamon

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:34 AM

Prolly just want himself unbanned

Is that why I gave Ben (Tweaq) The account name and password?

Seems like if I gave him access to the account, maybe I dont just want myself unbanned.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:39 AM

I've known you for a couple months. You we're always fun to talk to in friend chat. I guess I will see you later. Out of all the thieves, i've ever seen what you did right here was the best thing I've ever seen a thief do. I'm proud that you did this, and with a little hard work you'll be able to come back to the game, if you want.

That would require me to want to come Back Ronnie.
The game has ceased to be fun, when I hurt a friend of mine.
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And after this, I am afraid I probably lost most of them.
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#20 Rappy_Ninja

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:43 AM

of all people you are like one of the last I would expect to do this kind of thing : /


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#21 Eamon

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:44 AM

of all people you are like one of the last I would expect to do this kind of thing : /


sorry to see you go

as much arguing as we did, youre the last person I would expect to be sorry to see me go. lol.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:49 AM

You were well aware of the consequences to what you were doing. Donna and Ben are some of the most greatest friends on here and you chose to take advantage of that. You stealing goes to show how... untrustworthy, hypocritical and pathetic you are. Those are the three worst people in this world. Thieves get no remorse from me. I just can't believe you did this. You confessing and giving them back.. I doubt is going to change anything much. With all that being said...

So long, farewell, aidos, goodbye...
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:52 AM

Paul i have known u for as long as ben and donna has and yes i was pissed at u when i first found out that u did this stuff to donna but at least u admitted to it and that u are gonna give the stuff back to her and ur stuff. as most ppl have already said i thought u would be one of the last ppl to do this to anyone. I will keep in contact with you on Msn so Take care of yourself and get ur act together it'll all be ok some day believe me.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:54 AM

For gods sake, he confesses AFTER the account is banned and some of you are giving credit to him? WTF is wrong with you?

Paul, you were always a good friend, but yea, I'm glad I didn't toss you some good stat crits like you asked me last night. This just shows me you tried to screw me over before you got Donna. It's only a game so I won't hold anything against you, but I'm just dissapointed you stooped to that level and even moreso amongst good friends who would have given alot just to help you out.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:59 AM

I still consider myself one of the newer players, since the "old players" are those who can talk about pre-reset times. I know that I am nowhere near some of those players crit/item wise,

you can say that again
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 01:59 AM

of all people you are like one of the last I would expect to do this kind of thing : /


sorry to see you go

as much arguing as we did, youre the last person I would expect to be sorry to see me go. lol.

naah we were friends in the end

well sort of lol
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:04 AM

Eamon, When I first saw this thread, I didnt know what to think. "You of all people. What has gotten into you lately?" that is what i thought after the shock of it came out of me. Now.... I'm proud that you have stood up to the plate, done the right thing, and admitted your mistakes. Takes guts. You didnt lose my respect bro. and you have me on msn. if ya ever need anything....dont hesitate to ask. Stay cool man. and im sorry to see you go.

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#28 Eamon

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:11 AM

For gods sake, he confesses AFTER the account is banned and some of you are giving credit to him? WTF is wrong with you?

Paul, you were always a good friend, but yea, I'm glad I didn't toss you some good stat crits like you asked me last night. This just shows me you tried to screw me over before you got Donna. It's only a game so I won't hold anything against you, but I'm just dissapointed you stooped to that level and even moreso amongst good friends who would have given alot just to help you out.

Actually Dan, I was bored, and I asked if you needed any low levels trained.
And, this was before Donna gave me her pass, so I dont see how I tried to screw you over before I screwed her.

Just for the record.

And, also, yes, it is banned right now, as I did post above. But, according to the rules of Nightmist, the password was given to me, therefore, nothing can be done, correct. If I didnt feel bad about all of it, I could have just kept all the crits.

If I wanted to screw Donna over, I could wait until the account is unbanned, and since the password was given to me, the crits would be mine, if im not mistaken, and I could just delete them all before I quit. But no, I am giving all of them to her.

Tell you what Dan, since youre so worried about me trying to save face in front of all the people that are still on here, I will not post on forums again, I will not log on that msn messenger name again, I will create a new one, and not talk to anyone from nightmist again, if that would please you. Not log on ever again, on any character. Would that be proof enough that I dont care what they are saying on here? I dont care what anyone thinks.

Dan, I am not logging on again, unless its to talk, but if its what you want, I will totally delete nightmist, get a new email address, and not ever talk to anyone on Nightmist again. Would that please you?

Let me know Dan, I just think its funny that I have talked to Donna, and she is willing to forgive me, yet you still arent.

Edited by Eamon, 19 September 2004 - 02:13 AM.


#29 heart_less

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:17 AM

well i'm the heart_less(donna)that he just stole from and yes i am posting cause i was really mad this morning i didn't know what to say if i did say something it would have probably very rude and not nice at all.AND YES I DO STILL TRUST PAUL EVEN AFTER ALL OF THIS.because he was a true friend and i ain't sure what got into him and why he would do it but yes i am getting my stuff back........but i refuse to take his stuff cause 1 i didn't earn it and 2 i don't need it i can make gold to change the names but i don't care.it is only a game now i wouldn't have said that this morning when i got woke up and ben aka tweaq told me i had no crits cause they musta got stolen but i have actually thought about it and yes i do still trust him after all of this and i am very glad he is giving me all my stuff back.I DO NOT WANT EAMON AKA PAUL TO LEAVE EVEN AFTER ALL OF THIS.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 02:58 AM

Well Eammy, I'm not quite sure what to think about this entire thing, but I will tell you this much. You're still My Eammy, right wrong or indifferent. I didn't form a friendship with you on the basis that you weren't a thief. I formed a friendship with you on the basis of whom you are. You are human and make mistakes, like we all have. And, mistakes are to be forgiven where I come from. You messed up, but it could have been worse meaning, deleting the crits, or selling them off.. but you had sense enough to realize it was wrong, which is more then I can say for most people. You haven't lost any standing in My eyes Eammy, cuz you're still the person I knew, ya just got a little lost along the way. It's ok, I have a bad sense of direction too but, I can always find My way home. I have faith that you can do the same. You know how to get in touch with Me, and on the off chance that ya don't, you can always Trey. :P Wuv ya Eammy. /licks
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