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[Lich]

I have been staff at html chatsites for oover 15 years. The first one started out as a small no one knew it we had like 6 chat rooms- All rp.. I was the manager at the site and the owner did everything he could think of. I set up the rps in alot of the chat rooms and i rped as well. But there wasnt one second that i wasnt accused of favoritism when it was a friend that was on the right end of the battle that chat house is now the biggest on the net and one of the oldest still running chatro.

It happens do i agree with some of the rules that JLH and pandilex have made. Hell no. But it is their game and they set the rules.

If you are staff then you should understand that apart of that is you have to have thick skin, no matter what the players say, and i have to agree with dan on this one the post wasnt needed.

[Dan]

Ste,
Obviously you want to turn this into your feelings on the subject, and how you think others should act. If someone doesn't see things as you do, thier wrong in your eyes. Let's not go there, for everyone would tell you differently.

I know enough to read, hence I know what your saying. You feel the need to try putting me into my place, but cannot because you know as much of me as I do you. What I do know about you though, is the simple fact you post the same damn thing in multiple variations within different topics. What you fail to realize is that no matter what you say or do, no matter how many directions you take a subject, no matter how many ways you twist words, people are still going to think for themselves and come to thier own conclusions.

To top it off like I stated this is an unnecessary topic simply because it continues to be a topic that is bound to being locked. You should know this much by now. You try telling people all about thier TOS violations, yet what do we have here? You bringing up a topic that has been locked time and time again (a topic reguarding staff). You have now made it abundantly clear that yours is the brownest nose of all, for I see no other staffers or former staffers feeling the need to restart a topic concerning staff after they have been locked. Maybe, just maybe there is a reason for this?

[PureMourning]

Some of the points you just brought up are also variations of your past, or original intended points. Go on, contradict yourself.

[Prophet]

No one is forcing you to read the posts at all...

Its good to see a post to compliment staff and even better to see one that uses proper grammar and doesn't end with them saying something like "can i get items or gold for this plz jlh".

[Stigmata]

To top it off like I stated this is an unnecessary topic simply because it continues to be a topic that is bound to being locked. You should know this much by now. You try telling people all about thier TOS violations, yet what do we have here? You bringing up a topic that has been locked time and time again (a topic reguarding staff). You have now made it abundantly clear that yours is the brownest nose of all, for I see no other staffers or former staffers feeling the need to restart a topic concerning staff after they have been locked. Maybe, just maybe there is a reason for this?

A topic regarding staff is bound to be locked?

I see no real evidence of this, considering both admin have replied several times.

The way these topics get locked is when people start posting rubbish about things they don't know.

[Dan]

OK then, please explain to all of us your intentions on starting a topic such as this. I for one, and possibly others, don't want to hear such things as how your sticking up for staff, or how staff have it so hard, for these excuses have been very well exhausted. If someone started a topic that blatantly flamed staff, great then you can use those excuses, but right here, this topic, you can not.

[Hatchet Crew]

Dan shush all you wish to do is make waves

Now you can tell me i'm here to kiss ass but i can't. I do not play nightmist anymore only remain on the forums therefor what would i kiss ass for.

I used to hate staff and thought that took all the time they could to make my time of playing nm miserable. After i took a step back and looked it over though i relized i was just being like dan is now. These people devote as much time as they can to make every bit of what you play now if you cannot respect that which makes what you argue over than damn you.

I respect each and every staff member as they all try to make your nm experience better, and yet sumtimes yes they do fall short. why though because you people hound them about this and that 24/7 get over it stop crying stig made a good post. Staff i'm sorry that you have to deal with the ignorance of sum of the nightmist community.

[Stigmata]

Sure Dan,

My intentions for starting the post were to try and eliminate the totally false rumour of staff favourtism, which was something that really annoyed me when I was staff.

All staff are monitored for one so if there was any evidence of favourtism, it would be sorted.

Most players in the game would love to get a staff member fired (either because they dislike them, or because they are jealous) and I'm sure the staff get their fair share of compaints, which will all be checked out. With that in mind, do you think admin could possibly overlook these accusations?


Also you mentioned yourself and others don't want to hear about this, well thats fine by me, I'm pretty sure the topic title gave you a small clue to it's contents, so as the saying goes 'you don't have to read it'.


'If someone started a topic that blatantly flamed staff, great then you can use those excuses, but right here, this topic, you can not. '

Well dan, when you run the forums i'll keep your opinion in mind, untill then, well you know.

[Dan]

Hatchet,
If I don't make waves it'll never be done. It's not my fault I'm the only one with enough balls to say something about it.


Stig,
Your not saying anything too different here. Your doing just as I said, twisting your words into different forms, yet saying the same damn thing. Come down off your high horse and realize your not staff, what you were at one time doesn't ammount to anything anymore. It's time you delbt with it, moved on and stopped telling us how you were once staff and how things were back then.

No I may not have to read a post, but the simple fact here is how many times is a post such as this going to be started? Many times, untill someone like me steps up to the plate and basically says enough is enough.

It's well known now that staff are monitored, there is no need for you or anyone else to start a topic reguarding them, your thoughts, and how others should think. If you follow simple requests (to e-mail your problems/acusations/etc.) that are mentioned over and over then there is NO NEED for all this forum crap. How is this so hard for you to get through your thick skull? Go through this whole topic and you will see exactly what I'm talking about on that aspect. They do not need for you or anyone else to step in and speak for them. Hence, now your only proving my point about how far you have your head stuck up thier asses. It truly is sad man.

[Prophet]

Again is anyone forcing you to read them? If your really that bothered just look at the title and don't read it.

[Shane]

He cant. Cant you tell by his replys that he has nothing better to do with his time than put someone down, or to point out that he shouldnt have read the thread in the first place. Its what makes his day, this I have noticed from seeing his replys on ALL threads. He always seems to have some kind of awkward comment about anything.

[Dan]

And yet, you both have read the whole thread through and posted such petty nonsence as a way of getting your 2cents in.

Bravo boys, Bravo.


Only ass-kissers are going to flame against me, I'm not bothered by this one bit because it's actually fairly informative to everyone who reads this. Yes, thats correct, point yourselves out for all to see.

[Shane]

And yet, you both have read the whole thread through and posted such petty nonsence as a way of getting your 2cents in. 

Bravo boys, Bravo.

Only ass-kissers are going to flame against me, I'm not bothered by this one bit because it's actually fairly informative to everyone who reads this. Yes, thats correct, point yourselves out for all to see.

Ha, and your wrong YET AGAIN smart one. Perhaps you need to scroll through this thread and READ it for once, you just might shut your pie hole before you speak from now on after you read your own replys but I highly doubt it. Check yourself before you stick your foot in your mouth. This reply makes the 3rd one I have made on this thread and none of them pertain to what Ste has started this thread about, my replys have been at you flamers.

You should know your facts before your mouth overloads your ass son.

And as for pointing myself out for all to see .... theres not a damned thing I am ashamed of. I read threads and post my comments. Unlike you, which you stated that you havent read this thread. Prove to us that you can read and take the time to do it.

Edited by Shane, 01 June 2004 - 03:26 AM.

[Pandilex]

I must admit I'm suprised how well some of the players know my own personal feelings and motives, like they are my personal incarnations.

The original topic and all follow up posts are not harmful or degrogatory, and I've already expressed that I have no disapproval. Please do not attempt to speak on behalf of myself unless you are completely certain it is the truth, which it is not in this case.

There are lots of posts which say unpleasant things about staff. It's nice to have some that aren't now and then, just to get a general feeling from the replies of how much of a good job they are doing.

Stop arguing against a perfectly valid post before I make you stop.

[Hatchet Crew]

sorry pandi just real quick ,

Dan when i say your trying to make waves it means your a board and prolly have nothing better to do so u try to stir up sum of that good ol drama. As you said that is what your trying to do so u just go make a fool of yourself. the only thing petty words on this forum are yours. do you see anyone else going off on staff...

Also i'd like to point out it takes far more balls to say that staff are good people and do there jobs than it takes to say no they are horrible people. If you are like stig and u say there good ignorant fools like you try to flame them were as usally unless people like us are fed up with your bs we leave your "petty" stuff suck posts alone. if not we give a good argument.

Anyways back to this balls thing. If you say staff sucks... staff do nothing usally which if they wanted they could... people usally agree with you just because its easyer to ride the waves than it is to go agaisnt the flow and stick up for what is right.

On my last note everyone says staff is bad and i make this point that has been made time and time b4 but... Were do your areas come from... were do your weapons, armor and game play experience come from? well the people you knock on every day, every hour, every minute on these forums are the ones that do it. Also when they don't do there jobs its usally because people like you are hastling them.

Anyways

sorry pandi for that but dan is far to much out of line and don't have a clue.

[Thunderja]

Most players in the game would love to get a staff member fired (either because they dislike them, or because they are jealous)

Most players ingame would be that petty and pathetic? You must really hang out with nutsheads, page/memo me if you want to hang out with some people who are not total morons.

Dan when i say your trying to make waves it means your a board and prolly have nothing better to do so u try to stir up sum of that good ol drama. As you said that is what your trying to do so u just go make a fool of yourself. the only thing petty words on this forum are yours. do you see anyone else going off on staff...

Hatchet Crew, when i say your trying to make waves it means your a board and prolly have nothing better to do so u try to stir up sum of that good ol drama. As you said that is what your trying to do so u just go make a fool of yourself. the only thing petty words on this forum are yours. do you see anyone else going off on staff.. (soz bout the spelling errors...)

Dan get over it, you may think this thread is worthless and i would tend to agree, but who made you the Nightmist Bad Post Police? If you don't like it maybe you should just stay away from posting on it.

[Kazuya]

Now I'm assuming you have both missed my point. My Point was I'm fairly sure staff can stick up for themselves. Having someone (even former staff) stick up and give praise to them is nothing more then as seen. Kissing ass. There may be some exceptions, but this was an unnecessary topic to begin with.

Arn't you sticking up for staff by saying they can stick up for themself?

Sounds to me like your doing abit've ass kissing yourself.

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Why dont people realise when they arn't wanted.

[Dan]

Hatchet,
Where have I been derrogatorry about staff? I haven't.
Where have I said staff sucks? I haven't.
I'm not going to repeat myself again because you browsed through posts rather than taking the time to read the whole thing clearly.


Pandi,
Show me where my post replies are invalid. Frankly I'm done with this topic now for everyone is just trying to pull at strings they don't have a good grasp of. It's a sad attempt and unworthy of further replies.


Shane,
Do you even know wtf your talking about? Technically you just admited what I said about reading the whole topic through. Plus, show me where I said I didn't read it. You can't.

Kaz,
Good point, I was waiting to hear that one. I quit the game, so I'd gain nothing from doing such. I do commend you for being probably the 4th person to actually read the whole topic though tho. I'm just basically trying to say 1 thing that nobody seems to want to hear about themselves. I guess the truth really does hurt, for it has brought out some true colors.

[Hatchet Crew]

Seems to me your the one with no good hold on ropes or anything for that matter

[Satterlee]

I would like to say that staff DOES favor some people and treat them better then the rest of the population cuz:

Once, I was at south gate house, and people started being banned, it got up to like four people and then I left, I found out that it was DeathWish talking to JLH about it and getting these guys banned.

DeathWish can sit there and rat people out, but if I try instant messaging JLH he ignores me...

Not Fair.

[Prophet]

I presume he ignores IM's, and only accepts stuff in game where he expects to be bugged.

[Pandilex]

I would like to say that staff DOES favor some people and treat them better then the rest of the population cuz:

Once, I was at south gate house, and people started being banned, it got up to like four people and then I left, I found out that it was DeathWish talking to JLH about it and getting these guys banned.

DeathWish can sit there and rat people out, but if I try instant messaging JLH he ignores me...

Not Fair.

Don't break the rules and it won't be a problem :-)

[Oracle]

I'm just back after being away for a week.

I feel after the posts on the first page of this thread, I need to reassure anyone who may have misunderstood or indeed been told a wrong account of what happened in that Triplex which I can remember clearly.

The match was started wrongly. (By my error). I made the countdown massive while I worked out what the command to cancel a countdown was before it got to the 0 and people could attack before it was set up correctly. I then healed -everyone- that was injured on the square and restarted the match.

The only way people can have heard it wrong, is through someone telling a biased view of it, and for whatever reason dislikes me, or as I would imagine, it could likely have been someone on the losing team when the match was won fairly... etc. But you get the idea.

JLH himself heard at the time what happened and I assure you it was all done fairly after me admittedly making an error in the general sequence of events in running the Triplex.

Referring to another part... JLH doesn't even have aim so make sure you are contacting him before you say he is biased when it seems you were probably talking to the wrong person there. (Memo him or /who for his email/msn or simply yell for staff if you wish to report something).