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[trigger happy]

i think that druids are nice..very nice..but alone a arch druid can take on a whole party of like 4 or more..so why dont they make other classes a little stronger?

[alone]

I think it's pretty fair where they're concerned. They do abit too much damage with Stormwrath, at level 10 - Maybe that could be re-worked to increase over time, and start at like 20 or such.

[Epic]

trigger happy, on May 5 2004, 04:38 PM, said:

..but alone a arch druid can take on a whole party of like 4 or more..

lol, no they cant..bet you anything with an arch druid it would be hard to take out a party of 2

Edited by Epic, 05 May 2004 - 04:26 PM.

[Wisdom]

Druids are fine the way they are. In the begaining people didn't train druids much, because they were hard to train just like mages are hard to train, but , mages are meant to be hard to train. Druids were are class the no one really liked and pointless. Now since druids got a boost and new weapons they are very popular and people who don't own a druid or own a druid that is 27+, pregnant dog and whin about how over powered they are. Like I said train a druid to 27, atleast and you will learn to love them. I own a level 30 druid he was made after the reset, but never trained him till the druid got an up grade. Druids are a good class they can take on any class no matter what level. The people that same a pally or a cleric could beat a druid are wrong. The only way that a pally or cleric would beat a druid is if they made a weapon like the talwn hawk.
If I am off topic, i don't care. I just don't like people saying that druids are over powered and should they be reduce a lilttle.
However, I do agree that storm is to powerful at lvl 10, it's to easy to train a druid to lvl 10. I think that instead of reduceing the storm damage, that you euiped it a lvl 18+, storm is like blast for mages.

[Iron_Maiden]

Wisdom, on May 5 2004, 08:59 PM, said:

Druids are fine the way they are. In the begaining people didn't train druids much, because they were hard to train just like mages are hard to train, but , mages are meant to be hard to train. Druids were are class the no one really liked and pointless. Now since druids got a boost and new weapons they are very popular and people who don't own a druid or own a druid that is 27+, pregnant dog and whin about how over powered they are. Like I said train a druid to 27, atleast and you will learn to love them. I own a level 30 druid he was made after the reset, but never trained him till the druid got an up grade. Druids are a good class they can take on any class no matter what level. The people that same a pally or a cleric could beat a druid are wrong. The only way that a pally or cleric would beat a druid is if they made a weapon like the talwn hawk.
If I am off topic, i don't care. I just don't like people saying that druids are over powered and should they be reduce a lilttle.
However, I do agree that storm is to powerful at lvl 10, it's to easy to train a druid to lvl 10. I think that instead of reduceing the storm damage, that you euiped it a lvl 18+, storm is like blast for mages.

lol Pretty much said everything there and i agree with it all

[Wisdom]

My spelling and grammer are trouble, I apoligize for that. I just got finsihed with a final test from college and I am very tired.

[trigger happy]

Epic, on May 5 2004, 05:25 PM, said:

trigger happy, on May 5 2004, 04:38 PM, said:

..but alone a arch druid can take on a whole party of like 4 or more..

lol, no they cant..bet you anything with an arch druid it would be hard to take out a party of 2

i think thats wrong..i have SEEN an arch druid take on a party of 4 ty..lol

[Xian]

4 lvl 21's? 4 crits low on health? At a boss? All low stamina? Afk?
What you've seen means nothing. ty.

[Bean]

PVP druids are overpowered.

PVM druids are perfect.

Dont change them, The classes arent MADE for pking, so they should not be changed on the basis that thier abilities *which allow them to survive at monsters very well* cause them to be powerful against players.

Contrary to popular belief, MOST of the classes werent built specifically for pking *Zerkers im not sure about though....*

[trigger happy]

Xian, on May 6 2004, 12:49 AM, said:

4 lvl 21's? 4 crits low on health? At a boss? All low stamina? Afk?
What you've seen means nothing. ty.

wut i've seen counts very well ty...and no it was a fair duel..and they we're experts if i am not mistaken..and 1 arch..ty

and yes crits shouldn't be judged only on how well they pk..but why not make other classes about as good?...in most games the hardest thing to make or lvl or use or wut ever you would do with the character..is normaly the best for most things...but however the mage isn't really to good...so i will take this subject to the mage discusion forum..and i made this post to get everyones opion..so ty for your time

[Dc]

i think from lvl 10-20 they are over powered because of stormwrath. 50 damage at lvl 10 is a bit much, but besides that i think they are fine.

[Ryuku]

Mine only does 40damage at lvl 10

[Penguin]

Ryuku, on Jul 18 2004, 06:51 AM, said:

Mine only does 40damage at lvl 10

fyi 40 is good damage at lvl 10

[Dc]

the level 10 i had did an average of like 45, basically 50.

[The_Final_Climax]

Yes, but the level ten druids stormwrath has a nice tendincy to fizzle alot when attempting to use it...it's not anything I'd try to PK with for the most part due to the large consumption of MP at the level you get what - about 10 shots at it? But really how many of those are not going to be half-resisted/resisted/fizzles.

[Ryuku]

He's got a point, my druid sometimes goes a whole round of fizzles, happens more often then a full round of...not fizzles.

[Satterlee]

The_Final_Climax, on Jul 19 2004, 02:09 PM, said:

Yes, but the level ten druids stormwrath has a nice tendincy to fizzle alot when attempting to use it...it's not anything I'd try to PK with for the most part due to the large consumption of MP at the level you get what - about 10 shots at it? But really how many of those are not going to be half-resisted/resisted/fizzles.

Awesome point, in fact, when you do a bit of math

100% - 25%(fizzle) - 25%(semiresist) - 25%(resist) = 25% chance of getting a full hit. and when your level 7-15(?), you only have two stamina, and half the time a little brave ass druid will come and hit my adept 4 stat zerker, thats when I explain to them what a halberd looks like the hard way.

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[Dracoden]

I dont like how they walk all over every other job in a duel just because they got armor like a mage's AoP and their one of a kind weapon, the hawk talon, which eliminates any opposition from the jobs that might be able to outlast their armor- like mages, clerics, and paladins.

other than that theyre ok i guess

[Gaddy]

Each class is overpowered when it's used profeciently or in certain situations.

Druids are very good because they can do just about everything, duel, mosh, boss, nourish, even at SK and CG they can hit.

Overpowered...I wouldn't say so, but other classes fail in comparision as for versatility. I only use clerics more than druids.

[fallen]

Druids just own!!!

Edited by fallen, 05 August 2005 - 05:34 PM.

[Dracoden]

Gaddy, on Aug 4 2005, 10:35 PM, said:

Each class is overpowered when it's used profeciently or in certain situations.

Druids are very good because they can do just about everything, duel, mosh, boss, nourish, even at SK and CG they can hit.

Overpowered...I wouldn't say so, but other classes fail in comparision as for versatility.  I only use clerics more than druids.

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Each class is overpowered when it's used profeciently or in certain situations.

back this up with facts for each class please.

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Druids are very good because they can do just about everything, duel, mosh, boss, nourish, even at SK and CG they can hit.

obviously.. thats why this topic is disputing druids: they can do everything lol

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Overpowered...I wouldn't say so, but other classes fail in comparision as for versatility.

you say they can do everything the other classes can do and more, yet you dont think they are overpowered?

[Sneaky]

Druids drain mana fast with morphing, hence you'd need to leave an area sooner.

They do low damage unless you cast Gaea's Blessing AND Morph.

They require (In my opinion) expensive equipment to up their strength.

Their weapon has one of the lowest base damages at archmaster.

Their Stormwrath spell Fizzles, is resisted, or does not do full damage extremely often.


They are versatile, however. Their armor spells + Gaea's blessing offer them a lot of protection, yet at a high mana cost. They rule against Clerics, Paladins, and Mages because of the mana leech. However, I find them to be useless against Fighters/Ranger's due to the high armor. It is also nearly impossible for them to round another archmaster.

[combusta]

man mike u must be dumb, druids OWN fighters/rangers, its called armor spells and sw....are u on crack? if u lose 2 an arch ranger w/ a arch druid u suck at NM

[Sneaky]

Armor spells drain mana.
The fighter/ranger will force the druid to morph.
The druid casts armor spells and morphs.
The spells wear off.
The druid is now out of potions.
The fighter/ranger kills the druid.

The proper way to put it...whichever fighter/ranger you fought sucks at nightmist.

[combusta]

1on1 me fighter vs druid plz and ill show u how 2 play this game

[Sneaky]

Alright, I'll admit I was wrong for once. I took my Sovereign Sword and Enchanted Bows for granted .

It still requires a good deal of quickness to effectively use a druid in any case. The times that I've faced Fighters/Rangers with my druid have all been in moshes, when they have a cleric. I was always forced to morph, and always did low damage.

You can feel smarter than me for once.

[fallen]

[Dark]

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