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[ØWÑÅG£]

I understand why not to hold down macros....its cheap


HOWEVER

i have witnesses that if i hit 3 different macros really fast after like 30 seconds it logs me out 4 holding down macs

lost me a couple moshes this way

staff plz look cuz somthing should b changed

im not holding down the macros yet im being logged out 4 it :-\

[alone]

It's be too easy to set something up that'll press the macros for you, and basicly auto train...

It won't change.

[combusta]

no im nt saying take it completely out

im saying make it so that like the speed of the macs gtting hit must b faster 2 log u out

[alone]

Because obviously hitting them slowly would mean.. That.. It's... Impossible.... To auto train?.. ?!

[Charon]

Wait wait... I'm confused...

ØWÑÅG£ has a complaint, alone answers... and yet combusta is the one to answer and say it isn't what he meant?

Something there seems a little strange

[Ryuku]

I know what he's saying, but at the pace it's at right now, one can auto train, so don't bother trying to use that excuse alone.

[deadman]

leave it the way it is now

[busta_newb]

ijkmnop

[Gaddy]

Wait wait... I'm confused...

ØWÑÅG£ has a complaint, alone answers... and yet combusta is the one to answer and say it isn't what he meant?

Something there seems a little strange

They share and live in the same town.


Anyway, I think it's kind of annoying when you are a cleric in a mosh because you have to hold the heal and drink macros (people try to kill clerics first)...


I just had a bit of fun---used the pub to get drunk, then held down my 'w' macro to see where it'd take me. I cleansed myself when I got tired of it. I actually did end up some place out of clan house, but I, no idea how, knew where that clan house was and went right back to mine.

Anyway, about five seconds after I'd gotten back to my pub and was just sitting there, I was booted for holding macros. That seems awkward. It's some kind of 600 commands per minute that boots people isn't it?

[Perfection]

Seems fine the way things are , simple don't press macros together or hold em down and u won't be log because of it.
Don't see anyone else having this problem as much as you say so it's obviosly something your doing wrong.
I agree with Charon, *something there seems a little strange* in more ways than one.
Oh and auto train ? why bother to play the game

[combusta]

question wht is "auto-train"?

and i dont think u ppl gt the question.....im being logged out when im not even holding them down....so somthing must be wrong when im being logged out 4 somthing im nt doing

[Squee]

It doesn't check if you're holding them down. Like said above, it's how many times you hit a macro per set amount of time (I think it checks every minute, not every five but I could be wrong).

[EvilDognapot]

i've always thought that autotraining would be best done without sending 3-5 commands per second. that's serious overkill for cheating, the game doesn't go that fast unless you're in serious PvP combat, and that's the only place where the fast macros are usefull. it would be nice if it didn't disconnect you, but i know we've been over this before.

since autotraining is the main reason we have it this way, i find it ironic that all the automated NM stuff i've done was always purposefully slow. also the only fast automated stuff i've done was to to replace the macros that would disconnect me!. yes, i could have not been cheaty and used the f2 button. however, if i used the f2 button i would have been disconnected to curb cheating. brilliant!

[JLH]

you are admitting to autotraining? i'll have to make sure your account gets a good checking over...

[Sean]

lmfao

[Ryuku]

rofl, pwnt, yeah, I stand by my comment, and no, I have never autotrained if you want to know JLH o.o

Edited by Ryuku, 02 January 2005 - 02:14 AM.

[EvilDognapot]

you are admitting to autotraining? i'll have to make sure your account gets a good checking over...

out of curiousity, how do you determine whether one is "auto-training". i would have guessed the criteria would be repeating a series of actions at roughly the same interval, but how do you discriminate between a person's repeated actions (most of the game) and actions caused by an autonomous program or device (for example the bird that drinks the water). with a large american playerbase can you still see a pattern in the intervals between actions, or is it lost to lag issues somewhere between the coasts?

like i said, i'm curious, because aside from the program check, i can't figure out how games combat proxy/macro programs without a large amount of false positives (like the d/c problem that started this thread).

[JLH]

the server program has a massive list of things it checks, and anything it is not sure on, it outputs to a file and flags it for me to read personally

[Squee]

...for example the bird that drinks the water...

I'm so glad that The Simpsons influence some people as much as it does me.

Press any key to continue...

[EvilDognapot]

...for example the bird that drinks the water...

I'm so glad that The Simpsons influence some people as much as it does me.

Press any key to continue...

where's the "any" key!?

[Crane]

I see Esk (Esc), Catoral (Ctrl) and Pigup (PgUp), but no 'any' key! Ooh, I'll have a Tab!

Anyway, back on topic... admittedly I have held down macros before, but only briefly to, say, run in a straight line for some distance (usually running between Nightmist and the Barrier Forest). At other times I avoid doing it because I find it doesn't usually make me attack any quicker than merely tapping the macro key multiple times in rapid succession... and also I just find I am scrolling myself most of the time with "You are too exhausted at the moment." messages.

[ØWÑÅG£]

my question still hasnt bin answered.....why am i being logged out 4 somthing im not doing?

[Lady_Maha]

My guess is because your fingers are too fast. I hit my macros rather fast occasionally, yet never got disconnected. In order to get logged off for holding down macros you must be hitting them extremely fast for the server to misread it as being held down.

Only advice I can give is, slow down.

[JLH]

to be kicked, you'd need to press a key about 10 times a second for 1 minute...