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#1 Chris

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Posted 05 December 2004 - 06:59 PM

I was going back and forth from nightmist to blackthorn selling stuff and i thought what if there was like maybe a postal service to send stuff to other towns it would work like the bank to hold stuff like sending money with that money order thing and also like the vault for items. You could send your own stuff and pick it up there and do what you need with it without having to travel everywhere all the time. You could even send stuff to other people and they can pick it up at a post office in that town. Since it worked like the vault they would have there own little like holding plac for it. You could charge for shipping stuff like maybe give the items weight like maybe something simple such as light, heavy, really heavy, something like that, Or just charge it by its type like weapon, armor accessory. Stuff like money orders would just ship for stamp cost like they regularly do. it would safer even to do this instead of like /give or /drop because it would help to lessen people steal items from other people cand it would be a lot less of a hassle.

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Posted 05 December 2004 - 07:52 PM

NMPS (nightmist postal service) - it's, it's...genius!


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Posted 05 December 2004 - 08:36 PM

World of Warcraft lets you post items, and that is far more successful than this game will ever be... so mock the suggestion if you will, I think it is a good idea.

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Posted 05 December 2004 - 09:12 PM

Why not just pay someone to run them for you, and maybe you'll find someone you can pay to provide insurance. And then, maybe a group of dedicated 'runners' will separate and provide competitive prices - or better yet, form a union. Oh, and if we're all lucky, maybe someday we'll be able to buy stock in this union of runners. Won't that be nice :unsure:

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Posted 05 December 2004 - 09:43 PM

World of Warcraft lets you post items, and that is far more successful than this game will ever be... so mock the suggestion if you will, I think it is a good idea.

I think the reason that the postal service in WoW is successful is because it takes longer than 4 seconds to walk to another town.
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Posted 05 December 2004 - 10:25 PM

World of Warcraft lets you post items, and that is far more successful than this game will ever be... so mock the suggestion if you will, I think it is a good idea.

I think the reason that the postal service in WoW is successful is because it takes longer than 4 seconds to walk to another town.

Hehe how right you are Squee!! This guy has got to be one seriously lazy MOFO, to want to have a postal service in nightmist.

Staff already have enough on the plate as it is, so let them concentrate on the bigger and more important things like new areas and equips, instead of some retarded postal service :unsure:
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Posted 05 December 2004 - 10:46 PM

lol maybe they should put this in and have a cetain percetn chance robbers still your loot..


Is Nmps policy you are responisble for any lost items while traveling from town to town. if you get roobbed you get robbed lol;p


i dont support is unneeded, and would just cause major unneeded lagg

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Posted 05 December 2004 - 10:55 PM

Not sure how it'd cause any "lagg"... However, it is unneeded.

Has also been brought up before and turned down.

Malavon, WoW is also 3D, run by a multi-million dollar company (one of the biggest gaming companies?), and has the backing of (I'd not be suprised) hundreds of thousands of players.
Now, pick out any differences between WoW and Nightmist?

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#9 Git R Done

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Posted 06 December 2004 - 02:40 AM

I think you should get off your beanbag chair, get some clothes on, and wipe the cheetos crumbs off your chest and take what ever it is you need to mail yourself.

The problem with most gamers now a days is they are just plain lazy.

Reminds me of the fat lady at the buffet riding around on one of them little electric cars. /t The FatLady If you would push yourself away from the table you wouldn't have to drive that car to fill your plate.

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Posted 06 December 2004 - 03:25 AM

would this be an efficient way for me to get the cheapest possible potions in the furthest reaches of nightmist? 'cause that would be cool.
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Posted 06 December 2004 - 09:49 AM

Would be fun if the postal workers were killable NPCs and you could jump em in the sewers B)

Except then they turn round with a submachine gun... :unsure:
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#12 JLH

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 12:03 AM

this is something that the players should be able to organise themselves if desired
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Posted 07 December 2004 - 03:02 AM

Well hey i just thought it would be a good idea but the way your talking is it sounds like it would be easier to get your stuff stolen which it isn't cause if you got off your bean bag chairs put your clothes on and wipe the cheetos off your chests and understood this message then it would be easy to understand for simple minded dimwits like you guys that it would hold individual characters items like the nightmist vault so it wouldnt get stolen and no there wouldnt be a guy running around sending stuff to different towns i suggested for the staff to like teleport the stuff if you will like they do the characters when they're sending them to jail or the staff lounge.

#14 Malavon

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 12:09 PM

I think the reason that the postal service in WoW is successful is because it takes longer than 4 seconds to walk to another town.

I'd like to see you walk from one end of Nightmist's world to the other in under 4 seconds. Oh, and because WoW is also so much larger, it also has a tram going from the two biggest cities for the Alliance, griffons, giant bats, wind riders, unique mounts for each race, zepplins, boats etc... and yet they still have the mail system.

Malavon, WoW is also 3D, run by a multi-million dollar company (one of the biggest gaming companies?), and has the backing of (I'd not be suprised) hundreds of thousands of players.


Which makes no difference what so ever...

Now, pick out any differences between WoW and Nightmist?


The major different is that WoW players actually want the game to improve. They don't have a bunch of idiotic, arrogant players that shoot down everyones ideas because they are to stupid to come up with their own. I can see how you may think it's lazy not wanting to spend 10 minutes or more wasting your time by running around giving items to your other characters, but if that is the case... just stick a cost on the postal service and it's fine. Then for you people who 'aren't lazy', you can still waste your time running around and save a bit of gold.

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 01:10 PM

There is a Nightmist postal system, its just it is run by Royal Mail, and thats why nothing ever gets delivered!

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 02:25 PM

It makes no difference there are dozens of coders working on WoW, and money coming in from every angle? Well there goes my arguement.

Wafer, you know in the same period Royal Mail lost 14million items, they also managed to deliver over a billion.
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Posted 07 December 2004 - 03:56 PM

There is a Nightmist postal system, its just it is run by Royal Mail, and thats why nothing ever gets delivered!

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Posted 07 December 2004 - 07:05 PM

Well hey i just thought it would be a good idea but the way your talking is it sounds like it would be easier to get your stuff stolen which it isn't cause if you got off your bean bag chairs put your clothes on and wipe the cheetos off your chests and understood this message then it would be easy to understand for simple minded dimwits like you guys that it would hold individual characters items like the nightmist vault so it wouldnt get stolen and no there wouldnt be a guy running around sending stuff to different towns i suggested for the staff to like teleport the stuff if you will like they do the characters when they're sending them to jail or the staff lounge.

It would have been nice if there were a few full stops in there... it would have made it easier to read ^^

I think for the most part we did understand what you wanted- an instantaneous way of transporting your items from place to place.
You want a way to move items from town to town and crit to crit without ever worrying about losing them through dying, and without ever worry that they might take up space in your inventory that you can use for pots, mana, keys... and whatever else you might need.

"it would be easy to understand for simple minded dimwits like you guys that it would hold individual characters items like the nightmist vault"
Okay, so we also get that you want a secondary nightmist vault to exist in the form of an item inbox.

I despise that part of the idea.

The idea of a postal service I find okay... the ways it can be abused make me dislike it, but the idea itself was okay.
You know what... I might even have liked that idea... until you mentioned vaults

You aren't designing a system that can be abused- you are actually designing the service to be abused.

And I'm sure the staff have better things to do all day than sit there teleporting lazy players items around.

this is something that the players should be able to organise themselves if desired

You assume the players would trust each other with each others items ^^
Sorry, but last I checked trust isn't something I tend to see in large amounts.

As a matter of fact... back when Inferi Dii had just started, I used to run an item transport system through the sewers. Anyone who felt they could trust the random person they didn't know was welcome to get me to take items to someone at the other end...

With the provision that if I got pked and lost their item, THEY lost their item.
Before anyone suggests it, I never stole any items this way... Okay so I don' think I was ever transporting anything worth stealing, but that isn't the point.
By fluke I never actually lost any either.

The fact is that I, a player, was doing this... I didn't even charge anything, although that was because I was mainly doing it to try and get word around that Inferi Dii were nice people ^^
I transported a fair amount of items... or at least I did until I realised that noone cared, and I realised that the people I ended up transporting for were ungrateful sods.
Then I stopped.

Nightmist as it is now- I sure as hell wouldn't consider doing that again unless it was for people I knew personally and considered to be friends, simply because I know most people wouldn't appreciate it.
And with nightmist as it is... chances are noone would trust that random person claiming to be a postal-worker with their items.

It would be nice if JLH's statement were true... but facing facts, I personally don't think that it would ever work as a player organised business
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Posted 07 December 2004 - 08:53 PM

Well hey i just thought it would be a good idea but the way your talking is it sounds like it would be easier to get your stuff stolen which it isn't cause if you got off your bean bag chairs put your clothes on and wipe the cheetos off your chests and understood this message then it would be easy to understand for simple minded dimwits like you guys that it would hold individual characters items like the nightmist vault so it wouldnt get stolen and no there wouldnt be a guy running around sending stuff to different towns i suggested for the staff to like teleport the stuff if you will like they do the characters when they're sending them to jail or the staff lounge.

It would have been nice if there were a few full stops in there... it would have made it easier to read ^^

I think for the most part we did understand what you wanted- an instantaneous way of transporting your items from place to place.
You want a way to move items from town to town and crit to crit without ever worrying about losing them through dying, and without ever worry that they might take up space in your inventory that you can use for pots, mana, keys... and whatever else you might need.

"it would be easy to understand for simple minded dimwits like you guys that it would hold individual characters items like the nightmist vault"
Okay, so we also get that you want a secondary nightmist vault to exist in the form of an item inbox.

I despise that part of the idea.

The idea of a postal service I find okay... the ways it can be abused make me dislike it, but the idea itself was okay.
You know what... I might even have liked that idea... until you mentioned vaults

You aren't designing a system that can be abused- you are actually designing the service to be abused.

And I'm sure the staff have better things to do all day than sit there teleporting lazy players items around.

this is something that the players should be able to organise themselves if desired

You assume the players would trust each other with each others items ^^
Sorry, but last I checked trust isn't something I tend to see in large amounts.

As a matter of fact... back when Inferi Dii had just started, I used to run an item transport system through the sewers. Anyone who felt they could trust the random person they didn't know was welcome to get me to take items to someone at the other end...

With the provision that if I got pked and lost their item, THEY lost their item.
Before anyone suggests it, I never stole any items this way... Okay so I don' think I was ever transporting anything worth stealing, but that isn't the point.
By fluke I never actually lost any either.

The fact is that I, a player, was doing this... I didn't even charge anything, although that was because I was mainly doing it to try and get word around that Inferi Dii were nice people ^^
I transported a fair amount of items... or at least I did until I realised that noone cared, and I realised that the people I ended up transporting for were ungrateful sods.
Then I stopped.

Nightmist as it is now- I sure as hell wouldn't consider doing that again unless it was for people I knew personally and considered to be friends, simply because I know most people wouldn't appreciate it.
And with nightmist as it is... chances are noone would trust that random person claiming to be a postal-worker with their items.

It would be nice if JLH's statement were true... but facing facts, I personally don't think that it would ever work as a player organised business

too long to read, so didnt read it, but it looks nice, keep up the good work :unsure:




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