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[Crane]

Now, I've heard many rumours. A lot of people believe that Rapid Fire is better than Flaming Arrow, but I have also heard that Flaming Arrow's damage is affected by Intelligence rather than Strength, a stat often overlooked.

My questions are, what is true and what is not of what I have said in the last paragraph? When it is best to use Flaming Arrow instead of Rapid Fire? And which race of Ranger is best suited to use Flaming Arrow over Rapid Fire?

[Xian]

Against players, imo- its usually best to use r/f except when waiting for full stam, ie when at 3 stam use flaming once hope it poisons, then you'll go back to 5 = better chance of rounding. (Works well with alts).

If you're fighting mobs- r/f.

As for intelligence.. I'm fairly sure it doesn't affect it at all.

[ice_cold]

INT IS ONLY USED ON MAGES, PERIOD, END OF STORY, THATS ITS....MAGES

flaming arrow deals 1 poison damage now...use dual shot instead of flaming arrow for that 1 stamina.

[alone]

I ran afew tests and posted on another thread, no one cared though.

Basicly ended up with r/f being better, even if Flaming Arrow did quite a bit of poison damage, r/f would still be better.

[Despair]

Flaming arrow is determined by Strength and Dex, and the chance of poisioning is just pure luck, I've tested it on several rangers and noticed that int makes no noticable difference.

And I use flaming arrow for training on monsters with low hp because when you rapid fire and only get 1 hit in before the monster dies, you only get exp for that 1 hit. With flaming arrow you can save your stamina and move quickly to the next monster.

[Crane]

So... are there any advantages to having an Elven Ranger over a Halfling?

P.S. ice_cold, there is no need to shout.

[medication]

Flaming Arrow was useful before change to stam recharge, so you could time 6 hits in one round basically. Now, it's pretty much useless expect when you want to kill low hp monsters without using rapid.
One way of making it useful again would be if there was an addition to monsters of NM, adding sensitiveness/resistance to certain elements such as fire and ice. This could also be broaden with addition of new weapons with properties of such elements (keeping same base dmg) OR ability to enhance your own weapon with an property (way of enhancing could be anything from quest-obtained gem, or just paying a blacksmith).
Monsters sensitive to certain element would recive 1.5x dmg, while monsters resistent to an element would recive 0.5x dmg if hit by weapon enhanced by that element.

Other than that, just scrap Flaming arrow and add new skill to rangers, such as Poison arrow where poison dmg would be a lot greater. Seeing how Flaming arrow is last skill one gets it should cause more dmg than rapid over one round of full stamina (even extra 15 dmg would be better than now).

[medication]

So... are there any advantages to having an Elven Ranger over a Halfling?

Any possible advantage is in dex to wis/cha tradeoff.

Elf gets -2 dex but +2 on wisdom and +2 on charisma. So, en elf can resist more magic and hypno better, but should generally miss more. Now take in account that there aren't many magic users anymore and that you can hypno very good at 19 cha too, I'd say an elf loses in that tradoff which would make halfer a better ranger.

Not taking in account personal preference.

[Crane]

Hmmm... so where did this rumour of Intelligence affecting Flaming Arrow come from?

[newb]

Back from when intelligence wasn't just for Mages.

[Ryuku]

/t crane would you give 2 wis for 2 dex?

[Crane]

/t crane would you give 2 wis for 2 dex?

Most probably, but it is too late now; my Elven Ranger is above level 10 with stats 17 21 19 18 20 18.

[ice_cold]

/t crane would you give 2 wis for 2 dex?

Most probably, but it is too late now; my Elven Ranger is above level 10 with stats 17 21 19 18 20 18.

make that a mage your crazy lunatic

sell that to me...

Edited by ice_cold, 09 May 2004 - 09:22 AM.

[Crane]

Considering the situation, I think I will reset him, make him a Mage, and sell him on - but I will do that when the time is right, and this is not the thread to discuss it in.

So, Flaming Arrow's damage and poison is not worth the effort then? And I suppose Elves are currently not much use as Rangers.

[Ryuku]

How much damage does Flaming Arrow do when it hits good with Enchanted Bow?

[Con]

70 tops i believe

[Penguin]

INT IS ONLY USED ON MAGES, PERIOD, END OF STORY, THATS ITS....MAGES

flaming arrow deals 1 poison damage now...use dual shot instead of flaming arrow for that 1 stamina.

and forage

[Da_J_Mooney]

This was something i never got; why do that call it FLAMING arrow if it poisons?

[Crane]

I guess it is because the target's garments are set ablaze and thus damages them periodically - slightly unrealistic for the fact that most of the armour that is worn by players is probably fireproof.

[alone]

and forage

Loser.

[Penguin]

and forage

Loser.

?

[Tadpole]

I heard intel affects the chance of poison wit flaming arrow.

[Dc]

i think that flaming arrow is better for training, that way you dont have to use all your stamina for a monster that doesnt have a lot of hp, or a lot of hp left, but if your gonna pk or attack monsters with high hp, or are just to lazy to click mutiple times, use rapid fire.

[Gaddy]

I heard intel affects the chance of poison wit flaming arrow.

Jimmy said it doesn't. Jimmy is the almighty lord of Nightmist and his word is law, so someone lied to you.


Anyway, don't use flamming arrow to train, use dual shot if you're not going to use rapid fire.


Elven Rangers make sense now with the mage update. Elven Rangers stand a much better chance against a druid or mage in a mosh, where many others will get rounded.

[Mec]

I thought rapid fire was equal to dual shot?

[Penguin]

I thought rapid fire was equal to dual shot?

what sense would that make?

[Mec]

Rapid fire is a whole round of hitting.
If it was just lke normal shots, then people wouls just use a bunch of dual shots.