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[Crane]

This suggestion has probably taken many shapes and forms over the years... but here is my description of it...

Might I make the suggestion that Fighters have the ability to sometimes parry an enemy player's mêlée attacks, similar to how a Mage counterspells enemy spells? e.g. from the Fighter's point of view... "Player1 tried to attack you with his Halberd, but you successfully parried the attack." ... and the attacker's... "You tried to attack Player2 with your Halberd, but Player2 parried your attack." Note this should only work against regular attacks... not spells, Rapid Fire, Assassinate, or any of the other abilities that serve similar functions.

The chance of a successful parry could be dictated by the Fighter's level (your combat experience), the opponent's level (their combat experience), the base damage of the Fighter's weapon (a strong sword would parry better than a Quarterstaff), their Intelligence (foresight; knowledge of combat methods) or Dexterity (speed of bringing in your weapon to stop the attack)... or a mixture of a number of these quantities; the chance should still be fairly low, as they wear very heavy armour anyway.

If it is not possible to implement this into Nightmist, would this be a suitable suggestion for Nightmist II?

Comments?

[Ryuku]

Well, overall I like the idea, and having the use of int to do this, many fighters now would be rerolled, for most don't have int, and people who use fighters would really want this. But not often do I see people do anything other then zerk/rapid/assassinate. As for the Nightmist or Nightmist II thing, I think it would be an excellant suggestion for Nightmist II, and for Nightmist.

[Da_J_Mooney]

So it would only be affective against Pallys, Clerics, and other Fighters? We all know that a Thief that can Assassinate isn't going to regular attack a fighter...

[Crane]

So it would only be affective against Pallys, Clerics, and other Fighters? We all know that a Thief that can Assassinate isn't going to regular attack a fighter...

Druids as well when they're morphed or just using regular attack unmorphed can be parried.

[Ryuku]

Hmm, parry would avoid a little armor, I think, since you parried his attack, he might stumble forward and you'll get a cheap shot, but realistic stuff isn't for Nightmist all the time, now is it?

[Evergrey]

Might I make the suggestion that Fighters have the ability to sometimes parry an enemy player's mêlée attacks, similar to how a Mage counterspells enemy spells?

Read this again please, and refrain from posting unless you read the entire post...

For those of you who don't understand.

Mages rarely counterspell Rapid fires/berserks/assassinations/regular attacks.
Thus Parry... <as stated above> Would only "parry" regular attacks. <Same way Mages only can counterspell magical attacks? *Hint Hint*!!!>

Idiots

[Evergrey]

So it would only be affective against Pallys, Clerics, and other Fighters? We all know that a Thief that can Assassinate isn't going to regular attack a fighter...

Previous statement was for you.
And as for thief users not using regular attacks... do I have to get into that?

Edited by Evergrey, 11 January 2005 - 01:15 AM.

[Penguin]

All this would serve is the further weakening of pallys.

[Snoopy]

supported - would be good to give fighters a lil more zing

[joanna]

wot about berserk/smite attacks.... there pretty much someone swinging a sword/halberd ect

[Crane]

All this would serve is the further weakening of pallys.

This is not about the discussion of Paladins, but since a Paladin is part Fighter, perhaps it should possess parrying skills, although not as strong as the Fighters'.

As for Berserk and Smite... I imagine them to be too... berserk... to be easily parried. If a Berserker berserked in real life, it would probably appear as a blur as it leaps towards you with its weapon swinging wildly, but aimed in your general direction... not something easily parried.

[Penguin]

No way sherlock. My point was that the main threats to fighters (meaning they are completely dominated by them) are currently rangers, thieves, and berserkers; none of which are affected by this. All it will do is make fighter vs pally and fighter vs fighter duels last a few seconds longer.

Watch your language - Crane

Edited by Crane, 14 January 2005 - 01:30 AM.

[Snoopy]

Rangers and thiefs yes, but zerks no - fighters have a fairly even chance of taking a zerk out - well if the fighter had ok equip and the zerk dosnt have a bot and is not spelled up
The bigest threat i have found to a fighter is a mage -
snoopy - 5stat full wiz big hp
mage takes me down to at least half health normally down to about 100 in the first round
my answer? 6 clicks of absorbed attacks and the od hit of 20 orso
its happend to me countless times.

Tho this dosnt help as u cant really parray a beam of light lol
maybe fighter sun glass's with Uv protection? lol

Perhaps instead of parray there is a higher % chance to 'Dodge the blow'
As fighters are masters of hand to hand combat it stands they should be able to get out of the way of big hitters.

Edited by Snoopy, 14 January 2005 - 01:12 PM.

[Penguin]

Oh yeah, forgot to put mages in my post, but I acknowledge them as a major fighter slaughter house also.
(and I disagree with you about the zerkers, but I won't get into that on this topic)

[Tom]

excellent idea - got my thumbs up.