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Poll: Do you think JLH should make a 1 alt game???

Do you think JLH should make a 1 alt game???

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#1 surkillalot

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 04:26 AM

like i said its just a thought anyways i think it would be pritty kool if JLH and the rest of the NM staff made a new game where people could only have 1 guy that would be great not only would the world be less croulded but the lag would be no more plus there could be all new weapons and a brand new map.

well i know it would probly take awhile but in the long run it would be the best i sure do miss the no alt days :)

like i said at the befor its only a thought tell me what you think

o ya if forgot to say i know it might cost some money but i would sure pay it cause it would be worth it

EDIT:after i made the poll i realize i put 1 alt what i ment to say was 1 cirt

Edited by surkillalot, 05 March 2004 - 04:27 AM.

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:39 AM

im with this one ... i think they should .... :)

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:43 AM

I'm not entirely sure he's got time to write and maintain a whole new game, lol
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:44 AM

true true

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 02:44 PM

Whoa.. Way to steal Dognapot's idea and trash it..

Go onto the old forum and search for this very idea. I even posted a link to it on this forum.
There's no need to make another thread on it.

And you can't expect the current staff members to do yet more work. Remember they get very little for doing their job. Sorry, they get alot. Of abuse.

Edited by alone, 05 March 2004 - 02:45 PM.

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#6 Xlithan

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 03:54 PM

JLH isn't gunna make a new game, he has enough work with this one. I think pandilex should stop getting drunk, and stop with all this "ima make a game", and 2 months later cancel it, like opal spheres. and god knows what happened to strata.

Angel was making a game called Prophets of the Shadows, but that got canceled too.

And then there was Deity Online which got canceled twice.

Edited by Squiggle, 05 March 2004 - 03:55 PM.


#7 dognapot

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 07:22 PM

i'm all for my idea that i harp on about all the time. as long as there's two nightmists that everyone can play. eventually, i believe it would phase out the nightmist we have now. it would also open up opportunities to add improvements that nightmist as we know it now is not capable of supporting.
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Posted 05 March 2004 - 07:26 PM

won't happen, seriously.

#9 Squee

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Posted 12 March 2004 - 01:46 AM

As marvelous as this idea is, I doubt it will happen.

Just trying to set up a new server and finding new staff...ugh. Sounds like it'll cause a lot of problems.

Of course, this doesn't mean I'm against this idea. I support it full-heartedly.
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 01:10 AM

Unfortunately I lost the code for POTS during my rewrite :)
I am still considering running my vampire game but lack of interest makes it unlikely, and it would be entirely role playing :blink:

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Posted 02 April 2004 - 01:35 AM

I'd tell you that I'd join POTS but...umm...yeah, most of my characters would end up being victimized in a vampire RP. ^^;;;
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 01:55 AM

lol....any reason?
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#13 Squee

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Posted 02 April 2004 - 02:40 AM

Well...my main character is so innocent and naive that people just seem to take advantage of him. They manipulate him, making him think his actions are right and then he regrets it afterwards. After that...he's basically puddy in someone's hands. >_<
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 06:24 AM

Would that be steven perchance?
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 06:49 AM

I think it's actually the character Squee, the rat/boy, right?
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 07:53 AM

definetely with this idea also cuts pking from mega amount of alts :)
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 11:14 AM

No he should not!!! he should concentrate on the well rounded sucsessful game he has allready created.
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Posted 02 April 2004 - 09:14 PM

Actually, I never get around to RP'ing as Squee all too much. I've been waiting for "Prisoner in Tears" to be finished so I can write up a proper history for him.

Steven is actually my main character (I chose Squee as my forum name simply because it's my name in-game).
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Posted 03 April 2004 - 08:06 PM

Woohoo, I was right. :)

On topic.... Dognapots idea was a hell of a lot more fleshed out than this one... This one makes the idea look ridiculous
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Posted 04 April 2004 - 10:31 AM

Well to be honest, a 1 alt game wouldnt take up half as much space as the current game does on the server. Way less code could possibly mean both being hosted on the same server. But like everyone else says I dont think it will happen. Too many people will loose too much power in a 1 alt game. I myself am all up for a 1 alt game, it promotes working together to accomplish things. Something that the current game lacks.

EDIT: Also I dont think the coding of a 1 alt game would be all that difficult to bring out. As it was stated somewhere else by someone else the only monsters that would really need adjusting is the bosses. And I dont think they would need all that much powering down. With the bosses being all powerful it would mean that people would have to work together to kill it. Not solo it with 7 alts as I have seen some people do. I think a new map would be needed. Just for the sake of something fresh and new. But anyways, thats my 75 cents.

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Posted 04 April 2004 - 01:46 PM

combine that with p2p and you just may be on to something... :)
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Posted 04 April 2004 - 01:53 PM

An 1 alt game would need way more coding, people will get bored too fast and want all kinds of additions.

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Posted 04 April 2004 - 04:26 PM

Angelus is right. o_o

So is JLH. o_o

A 1-alt server is a nice idea and all...but it seems so unfeasable when you take two steps back and see the whole picture.

((Also, is it "unfeasable" or "infeasable"?))
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#24 Deval

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 05:20 AM

combine that with p2p and you just may be on to something... :)


At least that would be worth p2p'ing for.


P.S I accidentally clicked 'Edit' instead of 'Quote' on JLH post, followed by, 'CRAP!1!' *back back back back back*
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 05:26 AM

An 1 alt game would need way more coding, people will get bored too fast and want all kinds of additions.

Not entirely true...

Old mist didnt have many new maps coming in, and people were never very bored. But I guess todays game players just have a shorter attention span... So in the end your right.... :)
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#26 dognapot

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 07:53 AM

actually, angelus you're wrong, JLH is still right.

people already want all kinds of additions, and tend to never stop wanting. hell, additions are nifty. we can all agree on that.

JLH is right, because he's JLH, but today, JLH is right in the company of the other game developer.

Not sure how I missed this post... Saw a link elsewhere.

Anyway, in my opinion, yes the game should definately be one-alt only. However because of the way the game has evolved, this is not possible without so many alterations to the system that it would be a waste of time.

Therefore the solution is to run a new server, and the chances are, pay to play will be another server (the current one remaining free), which has more features, classes, etc (Theoretically a brand new game system which I devised some time ago) not to mention a brand new map. This server will be pay-to-play, although I suspect it may start out being free for testing purposes.

Don't take any of this information to be solid, or ask for updates because this isn't even in development, it is just a possible plan for the future. I also have some tricks of my own that are hiding up my sleeve, which are most interesting. However, unfortunately this will remain invisible for the meantime as time constraints are pretty tight and it's hard to do work in full time education (Lucky that nightmist was started before university, otherwise it may never have had the effort put in that it needed to take off).

I dare say next year will have some interesting things in store, particularly during and after summer. The year after that, well... I can tell you there's going to be some VERY interesting things by that stage. Deadlines are never certain though, so don't be expecting anything, and don't take any of this information as some sort of huge update, as only a few plans and ideas have been thrown around.


that's pandilex on the old forum.

however, squee, you might be wrong. i don't know. what happens when an unfeasable solution meets an otherwise unsolvable problem?

but deval is right. i'd pay for that kind of nightmist, and if pandilex is right, that kind of nightmist is the only kind of nightmist we'd be paying for anyways.

and bean the thread where i went through the sister server idea is here.
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 08:05 AM

actually, angelus you're wrong, JLH is still right.

people already want all kinds of additions, and tend to never stop wanting. hell, additions are nifty. we can all agree on that.

I'm not talking about new area's thats easy to make, im talking about complete systems that have to be put in if you make it 1 alt. People would want to be able to control their own stats ingame, they wanne fish and bake, they wanne have a job, they want too control skills.

Cause what if you're lvl 30, then theres nothing to do anymore, not on the current NM anyways...well you can kill people and go on boss runs. But the point of an rpg is to evolve...

And please don't tell me im wrong, it doesnt change me being right.

#28 dognapot

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 08:14 AM

this nightmist needs way more coding also, that was more point. people are always chomping at the bit for the next big update. not just areas. you say yourself that there's nothing more to do at lvl 30, that's a place where way too much coding could fit couldn't it?
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Posted 16 April 2004 - 12:13 PM

Here is my suggestion. This game which Pandilex was gunna make (Strata), how about that being the 1 alt game, new maps, new features. seems simple enough to me. they'd be no point in having the exact same game, just for the point of having 1 alt only.

Edited by Squiggle, 16 April 2004 - 12:14 PM.





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