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[Stigmata]

I think most of you'll agree that fighters arn't the most interesting class to play in the game, and i'll even go as far as saying that I believe them to be now underpowered.

The reason they are starting to become so underpowered is to do with the increasing amount of armor/stat mods available to crits nowadays. A druid/mage/cleric/paladin call literally render a fighters attacking power useless with a single spell, or a combo of a couple.

Now the spells of the other classes are fine, but when you consider that fighters are masters of melee combat and heavy armor something is definately lacking.

Lets look at it like this -

Cleric - Able to heal for 100's.
Able to increase stats by a great deal
Can wear medium armor, but no restriction on stat mods
Can increase more stamina per round thabn everyone cept mages.
Can deal decent enough damage to threaten players.

Paladin - Able to heal for 60's
Can increase stats, and most importantly dex by alot.
Can wear pretty much all the armor a fighter can bar a few pieces.
Deals less damage than a fighter, but more than cleric.

Mage - Able to increase armor to 150+
Gains more stamina per refresh than most.
Can do loads of damage with offensive magic.
Can dispell any stat spell.

Druid - Able to increase armor to 150+
Can heal for a few points.
Can morph to regain hp/mp.
Can use an offensive magic spell.
Can attack for huge damage using melee weapons.
Can leech mana from magical classes.

Fighter - 1 more stamina than any other class
Generally is supposed to deal more dmg per hit with melee.
Few extra armor than other classes


Now the way I look at it, thats a huge disadvantage to fighters when coming across any of those classes.

Even though the fighter is supposed to be superior to all classes in melee and armor, it is equalled and beaten by other classes who can also specialise in other areas.

I feel the fighters general damage should be increased, a few fighter only weapons could be introduced with more base damage than anything else and I feel that some of the suggestions posted on here warrant further discussion, from the staff - atleast.

Edited by Stigmata, 06 July 2004 - 06:05 PM.

[Eternyte]

Mage -  Can dispell any stat spell.

Dispell does not remove any stat modifying spell, only Hypno and Drunkness for the most part.

Fighter - 1 more stamina than any other class

Berserkers also have 6 stamina which renders fighters unoriginal.

Either fighters need to get 7 stamina, or berserkers need to lose 1. I'd prefer to see the latter.
Fighters could also do with a bump in damage or attack accuracy. An increase in both I feel out overpower them.
They could also do with a few new abilities, like the stances mentioned elsewhere on the forum and a dual wield, or other varying attacking abilities. Perhaps, if a fighter completes a quest and gives an item drop to an NPC in a guild, the NPC in the guild will train them another skill. So kinda of like a scroll for mages.

Also rangers need to lose thier shields, and paladins should only be able to equip the Shield of Faith, since they are holy warriors. This would give the fighters the highest armor in the game by far, without given more items which would increase their armor too much.

[Stigmata]

I'm pretty sure I saw a thread about dispell suggesting it remove all spells - and if I recall JLH liked the idea. So it's possibly going to be added in the future.

I was talking about the classes mentioned above, but yeah zerkers do have 6 stamina helping lose the fighter some more originiality.

Something definately needs to be done. There's quite a few suggestions on this section that have been approved by most that read them, with no response from staff.

[Eternyte]

Ste stated fighters have the most amount of stamina, and I said that zerks have 6 also, which makes fighter unoriginal.

[Deval]

I have cropped and cleaned this thread, as I am sure that Ste would like to see something productive for the game come out of this rather than childish fighting that is counterproductive.