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[Gaddy]

Divine Light is on them. They are enhanced and RF'd.

Halo is at full health.
Suspect berserked at Halo, but missed.
Suspect berserked at Halo, but missed.
Halo was hit by Suspect's berserk from his Blade of Time.
Suspect berserked at Halo, but missed.
Halo was hit by Suspect's berserk from his Blade of Time.
Halo was ripped to shreds by Suspect's berserk from his Blade of Time.
Halo just succumbed to Suspect's scary berserk!

Image is at full health.
You already have increased stats.
Image was hit by Dynasty's berserk from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds.
Image was hit by Dynasty's berserk from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds.
Dynasty berserked at Image, but missed.
Dynasty berserked at Image, but missed.
Image was hit by Dynasty's berserk from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds.
Image was ripped to shreds by Dynasty's berserk from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds.
Image's armor wasn't good enough to stop Dynasty's deadly berserk!


Suspect berserked at you from his Blade of Time for 122 points of damage.
Suspect berserked at you from his Blade of Time, but missed.
Suspect berserked at you from his Blade of Time, but missed.
Suspect berserked at you from his Blade of Time for 113 points of damage.
Suspect berserked at you from his Blade of Time for 99 points of damage. Killing you.
Gaddy dropped a Lodestone.

Gaddy- 21 18 19 21 19 18 71ac 321hp (holy might at the time, 22 dex)
Halo- 18 19 23 18 18 19 90ac 291hp
Image- 18 12 23 18 18 19 90ac 292hp

This was during the PT, so no, I didn't wait til he had good rounds and post them, these came 1 right after the other, each round in which his zerks got full stam.

That's all I am posting.

Edit- Image = not 19 int :-X ty Ryan

Edited by Gaddy, 11 July 2004 - 11:37 PM.

[Üñtòúçhâßlë]

think bout it, if he did 100+ each hit then thats 300hp and that kills them... if just damn unlucky..

Edited by Üñtòúçhâßlë, 11 July 2004 - 11:28 PM.

[Payne]

lol Gaddy's Crits arent hooked up good enough i had problems wiht Epic and Dylan cuz they got Full Equip gaddy only has dex items.

Guess What Armor Counts Boy

[Payne]

(WON) Gaddy, Image, Halo VS Dipstick, Addictive, Hostage
Hostage is Arch Zerk why didnt he kill u?

(WON) Gaddy, Image, Halo VS Wonderful_Nightmare, Boner, XXX
XXX is Arch Zerk Why didnt he kill u?

[Gaddy]

Halo killed Dipstick before Hostage got off a round with spells.

XXX did not have spells.



If armor counts, why did a party with 2 out of 3 crits having 0 armor win?

And honestly I could deck out my crits with RoAs, 16ac on both rangers and 12 more on gaddy (he had rings that gave total of 4 ac on)....none of them would've stayed alive with it I don't think.

Anyway Rob, I'm not bashing you, you had the hardest 2 people in the tourney in facing Epic and Dylan, either way you did good...like I said in my post. Simply posting this log. It doesn't say anything extreme or what not.

[Epic]

Well if they are overpowered or not they arnt going to be changed, staff seems to think they are fine they way they are..i mean they are playing everyday on mortal crits right? ...

[Payne]

LOL forgot to say while dueling Epic i missed exactly 12 stamina in a row lol all 6 from both zerkers. its just a matter of luck

[Consumed]

i think that zerks might be overpowered with spells but everyone has an opertunity to get em so i dont think its to big of a problem

[Eternyte]

i think that zerks might be overpowered with spells but everyone has an opertunity to get em so i dont think its to big of a problem

No offense too you, but that is the most pointless and worthless post every to grace the forums.

"If there are overpowered don't worry, make one yourself"

This one message seen numerous times throughout the forums solves bugger all. If something is overpowered, or has an unfair advantage anywhere in the game. IT NEEDS TO BE SORTED. Not have players told to make one themselves.

[Rappy_Ninja]

Halo killed Dipstick before Hostage got off a round with spells.

XXX did not have spells.



If armor counts, why did a party with 2 out of 3 crits having 0 armor win?

And honestly I could deck out my crits with RoAs, 16ac on both rangers and 12 more on gaddy (he had rings that gave total of 4 ac on)....none of them would've stayed alive with it I don't think.

Anyway Rob, I'm not bashing you, you had the hardest 2 people in the tourney in facing Epic and Dylan, either way you did good...like I said in my post. Simply posting this log. It doesn't say anything extreme or what not.

/nod in just 4 stam from bot with hance and rf saito with 108 some armor and 23 dex had 10 life left out of 319

[Tom]

thing is ure rangers woulda probably rounded at least one of his zerkers off, if not both so it was fairly even.

[Gaddy]

Ummm...no, zerks do not get rounded by rangers often. I owned Barretta when Ryan and I shared, I tried about 15 times with full stam and dex items to round it...just couldn't. 527hp on Barretta was a lot though I suppose. He rarely went under 30hp from the rounds though.


Anyway, I don't see armor as a reason my crits would die, I could see if they didn't have on the normal armor or something, but saying that a 3 arch crits, 2 of which are lings with 23 dex and 290+hp and one of which is an dwarf with over 320hp and 22 dex, should be rounded by berserkers with divine light on them simply because they don't each have on a set of rings that cost 1.8m per set round after round is just dumb.



Edit- Although, when Halo killed Dipstick, dipstick was rounded. I think it is dumb that any arch crit is rounded by another unless one is just not very good (such as off cons with low hp, or not having normal armor of an arch on).

I don't think RF should work against players. Don't take it away from just zerks....take it away, period. It takes a lot away from the game to have things able to hit players without ever missing and dealing more damage just cause they've got a spell on them. Sure, monsters I understand RF, but on players I think it is dumb.

Edited by Gaddy, 12 July 2004 - 05:46 PM.

[Payne]

Rf does do something but even without it on a lcuky round a zerker can still round a ranger so what to do then lower dmg on zerkers? no spell will stop them they just have the hardest dmg weapon in game Blade of Time unlesss u want them to remove BoT zerkers will continue to hit hard

Edit- Im sure if i had hallys the outcome of the fight would be different

Edited by Payne, 12 July 2004 - 07:18 PM.

[Gaddy]

I've got no idea what you're talking about in half of that. The idea was that RF would be removed from all player vrs player combat. Like the 'righteousness' of righteous fury goes away cause you're hitting someone.
I don't know if it would be different if your zerkers had hallys, and really even hallys can round anything on a zerk. Especially if they hit more than 4 times. Your's hit my crits 3 and 4 times and killed each of them, lol. That's kind of crazy.


If RF didn't have anything to do with PvP, then rangers and zerkers -would- still be able to hurt quite a bit. Zerks could still round just about anything with a good round. They would simply be less likely to put off a good round, as would every other class....I am not trying to say "Hey make zerkers less powerful cause they rounded my stuff".
I am saying "hey, this example shows zerkers are, in my opinion, too strong, and I think it is because of RF.", but like I said, Dipstick being rounded by my ranger Halo is kind of dumb, too. Why would an archmaster be rounded by 1 crit...It just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, I don't really mind if a crit gets a lucky round and kills me with it. It bothers me when a crit can have a pretty crappy round (hitting half stam) and still round my alts.

[Consumed]

i think that zerks might be overpowered with spells but everyone has an opertunity to get em so i dont think its to big of a problem

No offense too you, but that is the most pointless and worthless post every to grace the forums.

"If there are overpowered don't worry, make one yourself"

This one message seen numerous times throughout the forums solves bugger all. If something is overpowered, or has an unfair advantage anywhere in the game. IT NEEDS TO BE SORTED. Not have players told to make one themselves.

whats the point of bitchin about sumthin that isnt gonna get changed? deal with it and move on... and if u that woried about it get one and overpower every1 else...and they only have a slight atvantage so it isnt that big of a deal...

Edited by Consumed, 14 July 2004 - 06:39 AM.

[Raylen]

whats the point of bitchin about sumthin that isnt gonna get changed?

I'd like to think that if enough people are saying that a particular class is overpowered, JLH won't just ignore it.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to lower the hit chance of zerkers, as they're fairly easy to train really, and it would be nice if they didn't round everything

[Rappy_Ninja]

Zerker = 21 xx 18 21 18 17
Pally = 18 16 21 18 18 18 286 hp 104 armor
with mods pally has 18 16 27 18 18 18 104 armor


Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 90 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 53 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 87 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 60 points of damage. Killing you.



Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 88 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 75 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 60 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 56 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 60 points of damage. Killing you.



Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 92 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 85 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 70 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 58 points of damage. Killing you.

another 1 I got rounded but couldent log



only times I didnt get rounded


Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 46 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 52 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 72 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 37 points of damage.


Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 90 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 73 points of damage.
Evade berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds for 43 points of damage.


and there was another 1 I couldent log because scrolling that left me at 30 hp

csotw = only 1 more base then adament which can be bought in shops so not alot of fire power diffrence

also bot is only about 2.5ish and since zerkers dont have to worry about aoh/aolp crs/roas and such its fairly easy to get one

thats 29 base

to csotws 27

hell with bot you can round stuff with only 3 stam

Edited by Rappy_Ninja, 14 July 2004 - 06:21 PM.

[Consumed]

i dunno if they will or wont but if they are changed they dont need to be changed much...just a small adjustment would equal them to others...

[Rappy_Ninja]

Guess What Armor Counts Boy

if armor counts and I am guessing dex does too

I sure droped really fast

[Eternyte]

get one and overpower every1 else...

I am making a zerk, but knowing my luck the second I arch him zerks will get nerfed. However, I am aching for my 21 18 18 21 18 17 + Cobalt to be running around.

Edited by Eternyte, 17 July 2004 - 10:24 AM.

[joanna]

If you like zerkers so much.... dont whine about them. Train a few to arch instead and enjoy them

[Rappy_Ninja]

If you like zerkers so much.... dont whine about them. Train a few to arch instead and enjoy them

are you all really that newb ? I have owned as many as 3 arch at same time but I SOLD because I felt like I was cheating kk thx

[Mec]

i think that zerks might be overpowered with spells but everyone has an opertunity to get em so i dont think its to big of a problem

No offense too you, but that is the most pointless and worthless post every to grace the forums.

"If there are overpowered don't worry, make one yourself"

This one message seen numerous times throughout the forums solves bugger all. If something is overpowered, or has an unfair advantage anywhere in the game. IT NEEDS TO BE SORTED. Not have players told to make one themselves.

That was a stupid post.

Why does it 'NEED TO BE SORTED'. You just said that with no fact to back it up? Is it 'unfair'? If it's 'unfair' then everyone should be given a level 30, because level 30s vs. level 20s are 'unfair'.




Berserkers might be overpowered.

Are berserkers unfair? No. If you think it's unfair, make it fair, no-one ever said you couldn't get a berserker yourself.

[Rappy_Ninja]

Are berserkers unfair? No. If you think it's unfair, make it fair, no-one ever said you couldn't get a berserker yourself.

the point is dumb n00b is that not everyone wants to use a skill-less class

[Mec]

Well not everyone wants to hear you talk Rappy, your stupid and annoying.

Well, if they don't want to, that's just tough for them.
They CAN get one, so it's fair.

That's like saying that bots are unfair because not everyone wants one.

Not everyone wants a level 30 too.

Edited by Mec, 17 July 2004 - 05:29 PM.