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[joanna]

what does everyone think is best cleric race for 1v1's?

halfling - next to impossible to hit esp by smites/assassinates, hits often
elf - best mp, and unroundable
dwarf - hits hardest, best hp

halfling - low mp and hp
elf - low hp, weak attack
dwarf - low mp and armour

Edited by joanna, 14 August 2005 - 12:53 AM.

[Ryuku]

Unless there are race exceptions to armor (there should be imo) then a dwarf and elf can get the same armor. Seeing as none of the armor spells a cleric has counts on wis. And elf clerics fully armor spelled are roundable by a spelled thief or a lucky zerker smite.

I'd say 1v1, dwarves and lings are pretty matched, I mean, both are hard to round.

Maybe I can do a small chart to see what class would win more against everything to see which one would win more against, since what you're fighting best determines what you should use.

Dwarf > Zerkers
Ling > Zerkers
Elf > Zerkers
Human > Zerkers

Against zerkers, any cleric is good for 1v1, since every cleric can get smited if the zerker is lucky enough.

Dwarf > Ranger
Ling > Ranger
Elf < Ranger
Human ? Ranger

I perfer dwarves for rangers, for with spells, they are unroundable, same with lings, their much higher armor and extreme dex make them unroundable. Elves, no, they have the same armor as a dwarf and less hp, and hit for less, their 1 dex more doesn't make much of a difference from dwarves.

Dwarf > Thief
Ling > Thief
Elf ? Thief
Human > Thief

Well, since thieves assassinate cuts through around 70-80% of the opponents armor, it's not that important, which will make a thief unable to round a dwarf. A ling is clickable if the thief is lucky, but hitting at all is unlikely unless the thief is like with a dex mod or two. Elf may get clicked by a thief because of their low hp and dex, so I'm not sure about them. Humans have nice hp (300-310), average dex, average armor, so rounding them is a possibility, but not likely.

Dwarf < Mage
Ling < Mage
Elf < Mage
Human < Mage

Okay, lets face it, no cleric will beat a mage.

Dwarf < Fighter
Ling ? Fighter
Human < Fighter
Elf < Fighter

Fighters own clerics, but ling, with high dex and armor, has a nice chance to win.

Dwarf < Druid
Ling < Druid
Human < Druid
Elf < Druid

No cleric will beat a druid (overpowered kthnx)

I won't do clerics against clerics, and, pacifists? Uh, duh lol


So Lings and dwarfs are pretty matched, humans come next, elves are last for 1v1ing sadly, with thier average dex, low hp, average armor, and low str.


Don't quote me on any of this, just my opinion.


Edit: This is all considering the crit doesn't have a cobalt.

Edited by Ryuku, 14 August 2005 - 02:33 AM.

[Raylen]

Surely the only way a mage will beat a cleric is if they can round it. In my experience the cleric will just heal until the mage is out of mana

Edit: To answer the actual question, i'd say halfling

Edited by Raylen, 14 August 2005 - 07:43 AM.

[Rappy_Ninja]

call upon deity/almighty are wis based

[Ryuku]

I'm pretty sure almighty is at a set 30 armor gain and call upon deity gives you more armor depending on your current armor, like some multiplication thingy.

[Exodia]

hling/gnome plz

[Ryuku]

Gnome sucks, quiet fool.

[Exodia]

yeh gnomes suck... riiite better then ur elf lol

[joanna]

my old post i know... some good match ups there but 2 problems:

1)Cleric armour spells are completely dependant upon wisdom
2)Fighters beating clerics?????? Mages too will only beat a cleric if the cleric fizzes a heal

o, btw when i said 'unroundable' i meant vs attacks that hit 5/6 times, ie normal, rapid, zerk... not 'unclickable' as in smite/assassinate (which clerics are very vunerable to)

Edited by joanna, 21 September 2005 - 11:52 PM.

[Exodia]

what does everyone think is best cleric race for 1v1's?

halfling - next to impossible to hit esp by smites/assassinates, hits often
elf - best mp, and unroundable
dwarf - hits hardest, best hp

halfling - low mp and hp
elf - low hp, weak attack
dwarf - low mp and armour

well any cleric is roundable, and i dno how u figure a hlings hp is low?

[combusta]

well any cleric is roundable,

http://www.nightmist...showtopic=10967

and i think that 1 will prove his point on "any cleric is roundable"

[Lappa]

gnomes own

[ice_cold]

pallys beat clerics all day every day