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[Exodia]

Isalus berserked at you from his Adamant Warhammer for 59 points of damage.
Isalus berserked at you from his Adamant Warhammer, but missed.
Isalus berserked at you from his Adamant Warhammer for 41 points of damage.
Isalus berserked at you from his Adamant Warhammer for 56 points of damage.
Isalus berserked at you from his Adamant Warhammer for 80 points of damage.
Isalus berserked at you from his Adamant Warhammer for 76 points of damage. Killing you.


thats awesome considering i had 154 armor and 26 dex... lol.. someone show me how this is mathmatically possible, hell lemme guess, the server f'ed its math up, and i know what stats/armor i had because i had the armor/dex in boars, even after a /refresh

[Consumed]

http://www.nightmist...showtopic=10858


i agree... i told u mr. exilus... and thats not with a bot...shame...

[Exodia]

also, ryan/firewater hit 5/5 on kazul, 4/5 on violate, and didnt kill granthium, and he was fully spelled at the time, if they kill in 5 shots, what takes 2 crits to kill in 9, thats a wee bit overpowered...

[Limit]

that is untrue.... how many times has your spelled rangers rounded fire?

[combusta]

yes but they have no armor...+ ed it happend 1nce it basically never happend b4....stop crying cuz u bought 120k worth of nightshades and lost

[Limit]

they rely on their strength if its not apparent enough. Lets just weaken the berserkers attack and toss them some armor. hrm.. stop whining .. get over the fact that you lost.

You mentioned nothing about how you beat 3 zerks against sleeping... funny .. i bet if you had lost to him.. you would have posted something else along the lines.

Edited by Limit, 10 January 2005 - 03:28 AM.

[menardi]

Its a double killer for ed this week

1.dying in triplex because of hunger

2.Getting rounded by sam

each equally funny

[combusta]

i belive the correct term is...double whammy

[Momba]

Lets just get rid of them and Pacis an enjoy NM as it once was.

[Eamon]

Just a little something from a mosh the other night I thought could be posted here.



Gangster just used something.
Murder berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Murder berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Murder berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Murder berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Murder berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Murder berserked at you from his Cobalt Staff of the Winds, but missed.
Gangster cast a spell on Shrek, Xzibit, Gangster, Fearless, Vouivre, Solidus, Exo, Murder, increasing their strength and chance to hit.
Vouivre rapidly fired at you from her Bow of Prophecy for 58 points of damage.
Vouivre rapidly fired at you from her Bow of Prophecy for 55 points of damage.
Vouivre rapidly fired at you from her Bow of Prophecy for 62 points of damage.
Vouivre rapidly fired at you from her Bow of Prophecy for 83 points of damage.
Vouivre rapidly fired at you from her Bow of Prophecy for 62 points of damage. Killing you.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Healing Potion.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Monkey dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Monkey fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.
Monkey was resurrected here, after being killed by Vouivre.



An arch pally, missed 6 times by a zerker, but rounded by a ranger.....
Given the ranger was spelled, and the zerker wasn't, I'll take that point. But still, I had holy speed cast, so was at 23 dex on a human pally off 1 on dex. Zerker missed every stam, but rounded by the ranger.

Are zerks really overpowered?

Edit: Added to it as not to double post.

Edited by Eamon, 10 January 2005 - 05:56 AM.

[Exilus]

http://www.nightmist...showtopic=10858


i agree... i told u mr. exilus... and thats not with a bot...shame...

Price check on the huge box of tissues on number three... I say again price check the box of tissues on number three....

[Ryuku]

Okay, everyone, I'll tell you the exact reason zerkers are overpowered.
RF helps hitrate and str, but ranger, currently really dexy, and hit alot, they do not benifit from RF as much as zerkers do, unspelled, zerkers are nothing, hence, why people have a cleric with an arch zerker party.

This may be stupid example, but lets say rangers hit 4/5 and gets 70s each.
Zerkers get 2/6 and hit 90 times each. Unspelled, ranger will do more.
With spells, lets say they hit double times with 50+ points.
Ranger will get 5/5, since they cannot hit for more stam then they have, and hit 120 points, but zerkers will hit 4/6, doing 140 points. Obviously this makes zerkers better. As I earlier stated, rangers don't benifit from RFs full potential.

[Exilus]

Yes but the ranger can get up to Oh im not sure over 100 armor, while a zerker gets a big whopping o, so in the end it balances out.

[Exodia]

u honestly have no clue what ur talkin bout so juss sit down and shut ur trap.... ryan shoulda killed ed's cleric, wit the rounds he hit, the cleric shoulda died no doubt, but the zerk thing, thats alil wierd... and sam, its funny how u say ur the "greatest 3on3 dueler" ... but its funny, only time u really beat ed is in p/t and i own u period, so how u the best when u cant beat the same person over and over, everyone has thier ups and downs... dont go running ur mouth cuz u won 4 p/ts o my gosh ur like so cool now, sike sit down youngan

[Tom]

yes but they have no armor...+ ed it happend 1nce it basically never happend b4....stop crying cuz u bought 120k worth of nightshades and lost   

he didnt buy them he robbed me for them...


btw u cant say zerkers are overpowered when spelled, its the cleric which is overpowered.

Edited by Tom, 10 January 2005 - 05:19 PM.

[Eamon]

Okay, everyone, I'll tell you the exact reason zerkers are overpowered.
RF helps hitrate and str, but ranger, currently really dexy, and hit alot, they do not benifit from RF as much as zerkers do, unspelled, zerkers are nothing, hence, why people have a cleric with an arch zerker party.

This may be stupid example, but lets say rangers hit 4/5 and gets 70s    each.
Zerkers get 2/6 and hit 90 times each. Unspelled, ranger will do more.
With spells, lets say they hit double times with 50+ points.
Ranger will get 5/5, since they cannot hit for more stam then they have, and hit 120 points, but zerkers will hit 4/6, doing 140 points. Obviously this  makes zerkers better. As I earlier stated, rangers don't benifit from RFs full potential.

Calculator check

120 x 5 = 600

140 x 4 = 560

And on top of that, at that rate, the zerker has no armor, the ranger wears armor, so according to your post, rangers are stronger? Which side of the argument are you on?

Edit: Removed a little bit from something I said.

Edited by Eamon, 10 January 2005 - 05:33 PM.

[Bun]

BERSERKERS DONT GET ARMOR STFU AND PLAY THE GAME!

[Exor]

BERSERKERS DONT GET ARMOR STFU AND PLAY THE GAME!

well said

[Eamon]

BERSERKERS DONT GET ARMOR STFU AND PLAY THE GAME!

I am agreeing with you. Calm down.

[Rappy_Ninja]

BERSERKERS DONT GET ARMOR STFU AND PLAY THE GAME!

horc and it makes a big diffrence

[Exodia]

the point is, mathmatically speaking, his round is unheard of/impossible... if you ask JLH for the math equations and do them up, it will come up as an anomoyle or w/e spelling is

[Deathwish]

anomaly* XD

[combusta]

wow lol i love the feedback from 1 post i made....zerkers are not overpowered if anything rangers+ling clerics r....bt hey bill u 1 who scared 2 duel me 3 on 3 when im on my zerks :-\

[Penguin]

Nearly all of the people that believe zerkers are not overpowered are those that use them often or have invested large ammounts of time/money into them.

Edited by Penguin, 11 January 2005 - 04:33 AM.

[Da_J_Mooney]

Thats a bunch of nuts. I haven't even been on a berserker in over 5 months much longer then 10 minutes. I dont think they are overpowered, I dont think they are underpowered, they are FINE with the way they are....

Now, for all you noobs crying because u got killed by a zerker... STFU IF JLH THOUGHT THEY NEEDED TO BE CHANGED, THEY WOULD BE!!

Every class had their ups and downs, just because their ups and downs are more noticeable then the other classes, does NOT mean theyre overpowered.

I know I'ma get flamed by all these crying losers, but reading this u know im right, soo ill pull a quote from rappy and say

"Just cry?"

[Penguin]

STFU ubergay, JLH relies on input to know if something needs changed since he doesn't play himself.

First of all, zerks not having armor is balanced out by their insane hp. Secondly they do an insane ammount of more damage than any other class.

bai bai 4 n0vv

[Bahashabeem]

Well heres a new flash zerkers have to be within 5 feet of rangers to hit and well i am sure a ranger could be at least 20 times as far as that. So for all you people who whine it makes no sense even for a game. Ranger use bows and work weapons ok. !00+ armor does not really ward off any kinda real attacks. And also when you have a pally at 26 dex he gets hit alot more then what you would normally think. there are alot of things that NM could be changed in to make it more realistic. So umm get crackin staff WE want ANSWERS!!!!

[Bahashabeem]

I take it all back

Psychological just arrived from Above.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 50 points of damage.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 71 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 68 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 76 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 92 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 85 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 104 points of damage.
You killed Bahashabeem
You got 0 gold pieces.
Bahashabeem fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.
Bahashabeem just arrived from Above.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 75 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 76 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 107 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 85 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 55 points of damage.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 71 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 99 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 70 points of damage.
You are too exhausted at the moment.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 76 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 88 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 98 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 96 points of damage.
You are too exhausted at the moment.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 102 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 70 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 65 points of damage.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 89 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You missed Bahashabeem.
Psychological cast a spell on Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 77 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 62 points of damage.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 103 points of damage.
You missed Bahashabeem.
You berserked at Bahashabeem with your Halberd for 86 points of damage.
You killed Bahashabeem
You got 0 gold pieces.
Bahashabeem fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.


O yea my ranger had 0 armor o I will edit now before someone dumb says i had 7 armor actually..............

Edited by Bahashabeem, 11 January 2005 - 05:36 AM.

[MessiahX]

pwnd

[Rappy_Ninja]

baha = highest hp ingame and your dwarf is zerker is reason you didnt get rounded

/t baha your full of nuts basicly because if you had no ac at all you would be rounded 100x over

and let me show you some random zerks from a 19 dex zerker on a ranger with 90 some ac 290 hp


Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 102 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 94 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 83 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 73 points of damage. Killing you.


Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 95 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 74 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 53 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 83 points of damage. Killing you.

Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 95 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 98 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 75 points of damage.

22 hp left

Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 52 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time for 69 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Blade of Time, but missed.

You berserked at Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool with your Blade of Time for 68 points of damage.
You berserked at Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool with your Blade of Time for 64 points of damage.
You berserked at Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool with your Blade of Time for 66 points of damage.
You berserked at Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool with your Blade of Time for 91 points of damage.
You missed Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool.
You berserked at Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool with your Blade of Time for 58 points of damage.
You killed Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool


oh my gosh yeah zerks arent over powered

...

and before anyone says oh my gosh u used bot1!11 I will use rb

Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 57 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 43 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 75 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 79 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.

36 hp left

Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 89 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 43 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 89 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 56 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 81 points of damage. Killing you.

Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 76 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 68 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 77 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 90 points of damage. Killing you.

Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 75 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 44 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 89 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.

82 hp left

Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 58 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 69 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 62 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.

101 left


rounds on a cleric with 92 armor dwarf 328 hp

You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 59 points of damage.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 48 points of damage.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 74 points of damage.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 56 points of damage.
You missed Punisher.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 63 points of damage.

26 left

Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 55 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 89 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 61 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 65 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade for 52 points of damage.
Abj berserked at you from her Rose Blade, but missed.

7 left

You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 91 points of damage.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 48 points of damage.
You missed Punisher.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 68 points of damage.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 49 points of damage.
You berserked at Punisher with your Rose Blade for 60 points of damage.

9 left


now let me post some spelled ranger rounds still on 92 ac cleric


You rapidly fired at Punisher with your Elven Long Bow for 41 points of damage.
You rapidly fired at Punisher with your Elven Long Bow for 48 points of damage.
You missed Punisher.
You missed Punisher.
You missed Punisher.

239 left

You rapidly fired at Punisher with your Elven Long Bow for 67 points of damage.
You missed Punisher.
You rapidly fired at Punisher with your Elven Long Bow for 41 points of damage.
You missed Punisher.
You rapidly fired at Punisher with your Elven Long Bow for 73 points of damage.

147 left

You missed Punisher.
You missed Punisher.
You missed Punisher.
You rapidly fired at Punisher with your Elven Long Bow for 56 points of damage.
You rapidly fired at Punisher with your Elven Long Bow for 76 points of damage.

196 left

Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool rapidly fired at you from her Elven Long Bow for 72 points of damage.
Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool rapidly fired at you from her Elven Long Bow, but missed.
Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool rapidly fired at you from her Elven Long Bow for 80 points of damage.
Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool rapidly fired at you from her Elven Long Bow for 71 points of damage.
Rappy_Ninja_Is_kool rapidly fired at you from her Elven Long Bow for 43 points of damage.

100 left

to anyone who thinks zerks arent overpowered get a 19 dexie with hally/rb you will round stuff off 90% of the time and if you get bot you round stuff off even more

Edited by Rappy_Ninja, 22 January 2005 - 04:31 PM.