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[Lich]

Ok i asked jlh and he said if i get this set up I can do it but i will need a few things.

One the people who would like to be in it, and a staff member who will ASSIST me. The staff member would not be running it they would be there to simply help me with areana to hold it and so untill people trust me enough to hold the get in money, pot, and to insure that the pot gets paid to the winning clan.


Now here is my Idea; there are plenty of Tourneys for single players but nothing for clans as a whole to give them bragging rights and entry that is easy to afford and yeilds a pot that is worth the fight. so here is what I have in mind.


Each clan may submit a team to represent them consisting of five players on one alt. Lvls 25 to 30 (reason for the lvl cap is I dont want someone putting in five low lvl alts then complaining later that they got whipped like a rabid dog.) each player will be allowed one alt. the captain of the team and the clan its self will set the teams up how ever they see fit so that the team will work and fight to the standards they want.

To register your team I will create a crit called Clantourney three days before the tourney i will check his memos, the memo should contain The clan name and the name of the five crits fighting for that clan. first come first in the tourney as soon as I see the memo and you are in, i will send a memo to the one who sent me the memo and all the crits fighting for that clan telling them they are in. if on the day of the torney you havent gotten a memo from me you are not in. I will only take the first 20 teams and no more than two teams a clan

the rest of the rules will work like the protourney except that the alts are individual players from a single clan.

entry fees will be
10k a player (per round progressed) and since the teams are fighting for their clans the pot will go as a donation to the clan who wins.

this will mean if i get all 20 teams the amount donated to the winning team will be divided between first place and second place in the amounts of 70 percent to the winner 30percent to second. I would also like to maybe make a belt or something clan champs that the clan would hold untill the next time. but not sure if that will go.)

1st place 1'312'500
2nd place 562'500

This will work in a bracket.
round one.
twenty teams of five players each paying 10k a player will be divided and randomly chosen to do a five on five fight the winners will progress to round two the loosers maybe next time. Pot at end of round one 1mill gold.

Round two
ten teams who have progressed from round one each paying 10k a player to stay in will be randomly chosen once more to battle five on five. winners go to round three. loosers have a nice day. pot at end of round two 1500000

Round three
down to five teams an odd number each paying 10k a player to stay in, one team will go on standby(this team will be randomly chosen from the five remaining), four of the teams will be randomly chosen to fight. the winners will progress to round 4 and the final round, the loosing teams will be randomly chosen between those two one of them will face the standby team.) If the standby team is defeated they are out of the tourney. If they win the final round will work as follows.

three teams two will be randomly chosen they will fight. the looser will then fight the remaining team, if the team that lost beats the extra team they will again face the the winner of the first match of the finals, if they loose they are then out and the extra team will then face the winner of their match.

Im trying to keep the money to be in affordable to most but still yeild a decent amount for any clan. The most one player would need to have to stay in is 40k plus his money for pots. now if you look at in terms of teams then it seems steep, but if you look at it perplayer its not that bad anyone can get 40k in a week.

OK im gonna ask nice constructive coments only and i will ask staff any abusing post please simply remove them as they arent needed. TY

[dec]

sounds really good, we need a tourney for clans!

[Lich]

Yes we do thats what got me thinking about this. If anything is unclear i will gladly explain it just tell me the part that is unclear on here.

[Deval]

I think the main problem your gonna run into, is ensuring all the players of any given team are on at the same time. What is your policy in regards to a team who's members are not all present at the scheduled time of the match?

[Gaddy]

I'm going to try to paraphrase, you tell me if I understand.

Clan vs. Clan 5v5 fights.
MAX of 2 teams per clan
total of 20 teams
total of 20*5= 100 players (unlikely in my opinion)

Each round, every player from each team that advanced puts in 10k.
So you would, in theory, start with 100*10 = 1m gold
Adding .5m in the 2nd round
.25 in the third round
.125 in the 4th

Ends up being a large large pot. That is split 70% to first place and 30% to 2nd place.


Lich, some suggestions I've got are-
-You should make the # of teams you start with divide down to 2 without having anyone sit out. 8, 16, or 32.
-I REALLY don't see 100 people competing in the even, just doesn't seem likely to me.
-Maybe use 8 teams, each from a different clan. Just seems like you would then be able to keep some clans from having 2, there should be 8 clans willing to participate.
-Make it less than weekly, people won't participate every week if they are just giving away 10-30k a week without any prize.


All in all, it'd be interesting, but it could be tough to get people to join. Giving gold to some other clan isn't something many people like to do.

[Lich]

ok the only way i think to deal with that would be like all all other tourneys they would be disqualified. Im using the three day notice in the hopes that it would be a hey this is when you need to be on.

If a partial team is there I would allow them to grab alternate players from their clan or they could choose to fight with what they have. Now that would mean that the pot would fluctuate some, but as i said this an idea and imput of how we could make it better would be cool.



Gaddy good point. I dont think i would drop to low on teams 16 teams, but you had the whole idea right as i thought it out.

As for getting clans in if get the title in which is actually possible it would be the bragging rights, and would say maybe everyother week be low enough to make it worth it in your opion.

Edit;
ok I thought of one more thing. would this maybe be better split up say like american football two out of three matchs winner progresses round one is like one week and then round two again two out of three next week. or would it be better lft as it was

Edited by Lich, 12 July 2004 - 10:38 PM.

[Oracle]

Sounds very cool. I'd help out if I weren’t away 4 of the next 5 weeks You know how to contact me if you need anything before the end of the week Lich
Also, do you realise how long this tournament will last? You have to consider that some people can only stay online for so long at a time.

[Wafer]

Perhaps if players are required to pay the 40k when they register it would encourage them to make the tourny.

If they dont progress they get refunded (minus rounds played) and if they miss out they get penalised 20k the rest getting refunded?

Edited by Wafer, 13 July 2004 - 11:12 AM.

[Lich]

Ok oracle thanks.

Wafer the problem there would be this is a game and real life always comes first, and i have a problem punishing someone who puts it first.

Im still working on the Idea like Oracle said this would be a long tournament with the amount of people i want to use so i may need to adjust somethings.

[Consumed]

i love the idea...its somewhat my idea ....and since many clans are large is there a way to get 2 teams(like varsity and jv lol) or would it be 1 per clan...

[Lich]

I may cut the number pf teams in half. then make a second tourney with the same rules but a lower crit lvl limit im not sure yet i will post the final rules and how i think it will end up working tonight when i get home for work(makes his oh god i hate that face.)

If i do it that way consumed it would be two teams perclan, One higher lvl and one lower lvl so even the newb clans could get in it.

[Eamon]

Would the noob clans have a lower entry fee? Seems like that would make sense to me.

[Lich]

Ok, here is the final of what I have decided the rules for both high lvl and low lvl tourneys will be. They are same for both the high and low lvl with a few minor differences (low lvl rulse when different will be in brackets).



Tourney set up will go like this:

8 teams of five players, no alts allowed, will compete for the title of Senior Clan Champions (Junior Clan Champions).

Cost for entry will go as follows:

Round one 8 teams at 10k per player, total in pot will be 400'000 for Senior Torney. (8 teams at 5k per player for Junior Tourney, total 200'000)

Winners will advance to round 2.

Round two 4 teams at 10k per player, pot after this round: 600'000 (4 teams at 5k per player, pot after this round: 300'000)

Winner will advance to round 3.

Round three, final round. 2 teams at 10k per player, pot after this round: 700'000
(Final round, 2 teams at 5k per player, pot after this round: 350'000)

Winner is the clan champions.

I will start out with 8 teams because as Gaddy pointed out I might get 8 clans that will want to do this. I will allow a clan to enter a team in both tourneys but only one per tourney. If I see that I am getting enough teams I will increase the number of teams allowed per clan if need be untill we reach 16 teams, but until then I will start at 8.

Now with lowering the number of teams allowed the pot lowered, but 700k is still a good chunk of change for the Seniors and so is 350k for the Juniors.


Combat rules.

(1) No prespelling or you will be disqualified.
(2) Invis and any cloaking or hiding spells will be deactivated in the arena.
(3) All combatants will be allowed the chance to resupply pots and crystals if needed before the next fight begins.
(4) Everyone will be given 30 seconds to set macros at the end of 30 seconds the countdown will begin to start the fight.
(5) a team is considered to have won and will advance to the next round when all members of the opposing team are dead.

These are the rules as i see them not taking 50 years to get to the end, and to not destroy the server from lag. As for a time when the first fight will be im not sure yet, I will need to get with Oracle to set up an arena that will fit with what i think we will need. But aside from intervention from the great JLh and Pandi these are the rules i will stay with.

[ice_cold]

i have a problem with this. my clan is ranked 15th, yet we have only 4 members, with only me having level 25+ crits.

[Lich]

ok I should have put this in but i forgot it.

High lvl torney lvls 26 to 30.

Low lvl tourny lvls 20 to 25.

As for not enough actual players in the clan im sorry you would have to recruit one one more person. I said five because the majority of clans would not be represented well enough with 3 and that would kill the pot completly and make it less than what you could win by simply doing a pt or one of the other by yourself tournys. This is for clans so the amount you could win would have to end up being more, and since it is one alt a person that means more people which means more time to actually have to fight as you will not have the problem or the advantage of someone jumping from one crit to another. So the fights will take longer as you are both looking at the crits so you will know when you will need pots or not.

But your lvl problem is solved you simply go in the low lvl torney since you dont have the crits to be in the high lvl.

Edited by Lich, 14 July 2004 - 07:09 PM.

[Limit]

great job! i think its an awsome idea, reason being; No previous clan events, Teamwork needed, lack of alt usage and a very big attraction for old and new players in my opinion! Im all for this and hope that it can be set up very soon

[Squee]

...About the prize...obviously the clan will get the bragging rights for winning plus the prize money...but what do each individual player get?

You say they'll get the title Senior Clan Champion...but what exaclty is that? Do you mean like some kind of medal (amulet)?

[Lich]

Im working that out it, If i get what i want it will be an ammy that they will get untill the next tournament just like the Triplex. But im still working all that out these are just the rules. I still have to sit down with Oracle or one of the other staffers and get the rest setup.

[Thunderja]

Pssh just give us all your gold now.

Event looks good, i'll be in

[Tom]

can we also add no abilitys b4 "precasted" b/c this guy thought it was fine to morph his druid pre countdown.

[Lich]

No prespelling meaning no casting of spells untill the word go is rule number one and morphing is a spell.