I don't get the HM not being OP because of not regaining full stam, i.e. regaining -1 from full stam and -2 at 37.
Of..course? It's a +1 to regain, not make you regain full, just because at 4stam, it brings your 3 regain to full stam, it shouldn't hold true that way for each stamina gain. That would basically make any stamina gain for a cleric, a regain gain as well, truely OP.
Clerics don't pvp? Clerics can rape anying that doesn't kill it instantly before it gets spells off, or can drain its mana. i.e., the only thing that can possibly beat a competent cleric is, a hawk talon druid or a paladin. If you lose to anything else, then sorry, you're either not a competent user, or just got unluckily smited/assassinated.
As for both of you guys leveling speeds, I laugh that you guys even try and compare using HM vs not using HM between 2 human entities. There will be times when you're not training as efficiently as possible (healing players, lower pod, ect), or just sitting. I can assure you that the cost of casting HM 2 or 3 times per bar, will save you only about 12 heals, which (not counting the mana of using HM) takes an extra 2 minute atleast, to run out. In that 2 minutes, most people could of easily replaced mana and continued HM training. Especially if you have a cheap refresh less than 10 seconds away (demonic soldiers), not using HM is just rediculous. Rick may have trained faster (excuse me, I meant more) than John, but Rick could've easily gone much faster.
Wasn't this about druids?
clerics/druids.
however, as much as that burns me up inside to see. your post is the only one that truely makes sense. well done sir!