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[Oasis]

Inquisitors Bow;
Base damage: 23, Can be used by: rangers, Description: This noble bow is made by the purest wood ever known by man. The silver lining across the face of the bow shows the true craftmanship and radiance of this bow. , Level needed to equip it: 30, Magical: Yes, Vamparic: 0 (No), Armor: 0, Strength modifier: 0, Intelligence modifier: 0, Dexterity modifier: 0, Constitution modifier: 0, Wisdom modifier: 0, Charisma modifier: 0, Poison chance: 0, Poison/30s damage: 0, Monster damage table: , Mana leech: .

This majestic bow could either be bought in stores (possibly Harabec) for around 20million gold.

IF this was to be a boss drop the drop rate should be so low that it is hardly not even worth trying to get to. Like .01.

Just a thought.

[Bean]

Scuse me if I sound like a noob but.... why 20million

Isnt that a.... TAD harsh?

[Malavon]

Yeah, 20 million is a stupidly high amount. Nobody would pay that for a 23 base damage bow, even if it is magical.

[Poison]

Maybe 23 base damage. Magical, and 0.3 vamparic. Level required 25. Cost 10mil.

Mainly because a Ranger can't use a Cobalt effectively, so it is a valid alternative.

[Oasis]

Staff didn't think anyone would by a Cobalt. Now look how many there are.

You would be surprised how many people would buy this.

Now that I think of this maybe add vamp like Poison said due to the price. Around like 0.2-3.

Edited by Oasis, 08 April 2004 - 03:19 PM.

[Malavon]

Staff didn't think anyone would by a Cobalt. Now look how many there are.

You would be surprised how many people would buy this.

Nobody will buy it. I'm sorry to be rude, but who would pay 20 million gold for an extra 2 base damage? Nobody would. The reason people buy cobalt staffs is because it has more base damage than most other weapons, is magical and drains hp. The Inquisitors Bow is, in comparison to the cobalt, useless.

I also don't see how a bow could absorb HP. I can understand a staff because you are touching the staff and when you attack someone, the staff is touching them, thus I can see how the 'life force' would transfer from them to you, but with a bow? Can't see it happening.

[Silverwizard]

Every arrow that is fired from the bow becomes magically intuned to it so that when it hits a target the magic that the bow grants to the arrow sends the life force to whoever is using the bow, I MEAN WHAT IS WITH YOU PEOPLE?You believe a bow can be magical causing things that are only harmed by magic to be harmed by it, is the arrow part of the bow? Honestly, if the item can drain life force you cannot say that simply because it is not attached it is unrealistic the whole idea of draining life force is unrealistic but possible in the nightmist world because magic exists, next you will think the spell blast is unrealistic because it uses magic.

[Oasis]

Staff didn't think anyone would by a Cobalt. Now look how many there are.

You would be surprised how many people would buy this.

Nobody will buy it. I'm sorry to be rude, but who would pay 20 million gold for an extra 2 base damage? Nobody would. The reason people buy cobalt staffs is because it has more base damage than most other weapons, is magical and drains hp. The Inquisitors Bow is, in comparison to the cobalt, useless.

I also don't see how a bow could absorb HP. I can understand a staff because you are touching the staff and when you attack someone, the staff is touching them, thus I can see how the 'life force' would transfer from them to you, but with a bow? Can't see it happening.

K please do not talk unlesss you know what you are talking about. Rangers cannot do rapid fire with a cobalt, 2base damage and .3 vamp AND magical bow would be worth a ton and I know many people would buy it including me.

BTW vamp gives you hp it does not drain it from the object you are hitting.

[Bean]

Technically it does,

But nightmist isnt built on real world technicalities. I builds its own...

20 million is still a harsh ammount of money for this bow...

[Sublime]

Well i like the idea for the bow but i think its kind of unfair to give it +2 BD Magical and vamparic... rangers hit hard enough as it is with enchanted bow... maybe drop the base damage to 20 give it 0.3 vamparic and take out magical that makes it a bit over powered in my opinion, i've hit in the 120's with a ranger with EB imagine how hard they would be hitting with 2 more base damage. It'd be like using a zerk with armor higher dex and a cobalt(very unfair) and the price is a bit outrageous i know i wouldnt waste 20 mil on a single bow when i could buy 20 arch rangers with gold left over to get them each a weapon that would do about the same damage most of the time.

[Megalomaniac]

I think this bow is too over priced maybe bring it down to something like 8-10mil if it is Made or maybe make a Boss and have it as 0.1% drop.

[Malavon]

K please do not talk unlesss you know what you are talking about. Rangers cannot do rapid fire with a cobalt, 2base damage and .3 vamp AND magical bow would be worth a ton and I know many people would buy it including me.

BTW vamp gives you hp it does not drain it from the object you are hitting.

No, but they can rapid fire with an enchanted bow. 2 base damage would make what... 5 damage difference? Who the hell would pay 20 million for an extra 5 damage?

You didn't actually suggest giving it a vamp in your original post, which was what I was replying to. You suggested that people spend 20 million gold on a nutsty little weapon with a cool name. Not going to happen.

Actually, now that I look back, you didn't even suggest making it vamparic, someone else did. Next time you try to act all superior, try getting your facts right.

With 2 extra BD and 0.3 vamp people MIGHT buy it, but I still find it highly unlikely.

next you will think the spell blast is unrealistic because it uses magic.

No, next I will be telling you to be quiet because you're annoying me with your blabbering.

Edited by Malavon, 12 April 2004 - 07:19 PM.

[Raylen]

20 mil does seem a little high...although yes i agree some people would buy it, but lowering it to something like 6 mil or so would be more reasonable. 6 mil is a high enough price to stop people getting one for all thier rangers, but high enough considering the power of the weapon.

The main thing i like about this is the name

[Gaddy]

Give them a bow that is basically a cobalt with lower base (i think 22-25 would be enough), make it cost 10m like cobalt and you've got something that is fairly balanced.

[Oasis]

I said 20m because so many people think that rangers do not need another bow so I made one that not many people could get so therefore rare.

Made a few updates -

Inquisitors Bow;
Base damage: 22, Can be used by: rangers, Description: This noble bow is made by the purest wood ever known by man. The silver lining across the face of the bow shows the true craftmanship and radiance of this bow. , Level needed to equip it: 30, Magical: Yes, Vamparic: .3, Armor: 0, Strength modifier: 0, Intelligence modifier: 0, Dexterity modifier: 0, Constitution modifier: 0, Wisdom modifier: 0, Charisma modifier: 0, Poison chance: 0, Poison/30s damage: 0, Monster damage table: , Mana leech: .

Sold for 10-12m gold in shops.

[Malavon]

That looks much more balanced.

[ice_cold]

a vampiric bow has been shot down so many times, its rediculous, get over it. Also, a lot of people ahve shot down the idea of adding a new bow that has more base and is still magical....and this post is putting both those together in the same bow?

[Wolfgang]

bows CANNOT be vampiric. There is no physcial connection between the bow and the arrow.

By definition, vampiric means that it saps life from other life forms. A vampiric weapon saps life from the person it is attacking. This is BAD. Post it in the suggestion forum, and see what happens. >_<

edit: Stotic, or some other staff member, will say the exact same thing that we have said. (I say Stotic, because I see more activity from him in the forums than most others. This is no more than an observation, and may just have something to do with the forums that I check. Any or either way...)

Edited by Wolfgang, 13 April 2004 - 06:53 PM.

[green_mantis]

Technically you dont actually shoot arrows with the bow anyway. The game never says you do unless you use a ranger skill.
That must be why the bows have low base damage at low lvs

(Mantis imagines beating someone over the head with a bow)

[Wolfgang]

Technically you dont actually shoot arrows with the bow anyway. The game never says you do unless you use a ranger skill.
That must be why the bows have low base damage at low lvs

(Mantis imagines beating someone over the head with a bow)

... If you're using a bow, it is generally implied that you are firing from the bow. Some sort of logic needs to be used if you are going to make these kinds of comments/suggestions. No offence, but you generally are

[Gaddy]

Well you see guys, you can't technically hit anyone with anything and gain health from it. However, in this crazy little game we play, they let us. I can see not being attached to the person as reason to make arrows give lower vamp % than cobalt, possibly .2 or .15, but to say that they should be limited simply because they use a bow is ignorant. Not because it isn't logical, but because the game shouldn't and cannot be based on logic all the time, it isn't the way games work.

[Malavon]

Not because it isn't logical, but because the game shouldn't and cannot be based on logic all the time, it isn't the way games work.

Games have to have SOME logic in, otherwise they just get stupid.

Edited by Malavon, 14 April 2004 - 09:28 AM.

[Oasis]

How many times have you been killed then sent to your local pub in town?

How many times have you shot a bow with a shield in the other hand?

How many times have you shot someone mulitple times without being pentalized?

This list will go on and on.

[Malavon]

How many times have you been killed then sent to your local pub in town?

How many times have you shot a bow with a shield in the other hand?

How many times have you shot someone mulitple times without being pentalized?

This list will go on and on.

SOME logic!

God, some of you people are really thick.

[Bean]

Name some nightmist logic.... really... I want to see this, I cant see any when I look.

[Wolfgang]

getting hit with a blade of sorts hurts more than being hit with a staff.

[Oasis]

Name some nightmist logic.... really... I want to see this, I cant see any when I look.

*nod*

[Gaddy]

Not because it isn't logical, but because the game shouldn't and cannot be based on logic all the time, it isn't the way games work.

Games have to have SOME logic in, otherwise they just get stupid.

Excuse me, but don't try to flame me you ignorant jackass.

It says in the quote you got from me "Cannot and shouldn't be based on logic ALL THE TIME."

Then you say the game needs logic SOMETIMES.


Read whatever the hell you're going to quote maggot.


edit- sorry to be rude, but that really does annoy the hell out of me.

Edited by Gaddy, 16 April 2004 - 04:03 AM.

[Oasis]

This isn't a dredful idea. It is reasonalble, a little far out yes but the owner of this bow will have to pay the price to own it.

[Wolfgang]

no. thats all i'm going to say. Its not going to be implimented. And if it does, I'll probably be fairly pissed. Bows, as a rule, are not vampiric.