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[Mec]

Awright.  What makes being gay wrong?

First of all, it's not natural.  I don't see dogs or cats or anything doing it, only genetically altered flies.  Nature says it's not that way.

It doesn't work secondly.  Males are males and Females are females.  Nature has nicely provided us with a way to reproduce, it doesn't work the other way around.  Genetics says it's not that way.

Actually like Lich was telling you it is hormones that makes us male or female. There are people like Jamie Lee Curtis that have what is called: testicular feminization or AIS. She has XY chormosones which as you should know from bio, should have made her a man. So how would you explain people like her? She is genetically a man but is a woman. What about Hermaphrodites? Things like these do happen, maybe you should think about them before making blanket statements that turn out to be wrong.

Bottom line is I can not see how two people loving each other and harming no one else in doing so, can be wrong.

Edit: Oh and Mec about no animals other then those flies being homosexual read this article from the national geographic: http://news.national..._gayanimal.html It should enlighten you some. Now I'm not trying to tell you that what you believe about homosexuality is wrong since you believe that based on a religious belief and I dont want to tell you that it is wrong. However the animal thing you said is wrong.

They're not made that way, they're not meant to be that way.

I don't buy the stupid hormone stuff.


And, they make people uncomfortable for no reason!

Would you like someone sitting next to you picking your nose and eating it? Noooo, you'd want to get him away!

[afireinside]

actually i have not met one person that i have ever made uncomfortable but you. i am acting normal just not according to your standards. i cant help being gay ITS NOT OUR CHOICE, no matter how much you think it is it isnt. and im not being selfish for loving someone, you are for not letting me. who made religion?man. who wrote the bible?man. who thinks its right?man. im so sure god wanted us all to make different religions to further seperate us and ultimatly ruin society because of what we belive. because of religion people hate each other and kill each other, does that sound like a good thing? i cant belive how stupid you are, you arent gay, you dont know how we think, you are not god, you dont pass jugdement, you cant tell me what i am or why i am the way i am, im not gay because i am trying to rebel, im gay because i am in love with a man, i could never possibly be in love with a woman and im not going to lie just because some little punk is afraid of how someone can be happy with themselves. god made man according to religion, god loves us all according to religion, and according to religion god hates gays, according to religion god does not hate any of us, so gods either a hypocrite or, someone is lying, and it seems like religion is. you will never control me and my emotions mec, and i will marry the man i love and you can just sit and sulk with your little book saying that its all wrong but im just going to smile because im not bound to a false life. you are not everybody in the world so stop saying that everybody feels the same way as you. bottom line I love a man and you cant do anything about it.

Edited by afireinside, 01 August 2004 - 01:04 AM.

[Shera]

Eww!  Dumb animals!  But do the other animals hang around them?  I bet not.

Now, the difference is, between my quote and the other is:

Gay people needlessly make people uncomfortable, why can't they behave normally?  They CAN help it.  This is selfish too, they want to do what they do and don't care about other people.

Abortion is selfish also, it makes me have less money through social security.

Everybody has to go through SOME discomfort in like, if you're going to try to unleash it on the public, you are going to be stopped.

And I will prepare to defend my religious beliefs because they are RIGHT!



The only was to escape discomfort during pregnancy is to abort the baby, which is selfish.  You'll have to live with SOME discomfort, remember, your mother did the same for you.

I do not, and will not believe unless you show me evidence/proof, that adortion has anything to do with our Social Security. I think it's a baseless argument.

As for having an abortion to not have discomfort, maybe there are some women that do that, I do not know. Besides who is to say that an abortion is comfortable? Many women have spotting and severe cramping afterwards. But why would they when they have drugs that they give women to take away the pain during the birth itself which I am told is a LOT more painful then the actually pregnancy. So I dont think discomfort has anything to do with it for a lot of women. Again prove me wrong. If you can I will admit I'm wrong.

Sorry but gay people do not make me uncomfortable. Quite the opposite. I have gay friends. Seeing two people that are obviously in love does not make me uncomfortable. There is enough hate and bad things in this world that I find it pointless to hate someone just for wanting to love someone else that happens to be their same gender. I dont see how wanting to love someone else is selfish. Frankly I think it is selfish to try and deny someone that, no it's worse then selfish it's cruel and inhumane.

Edit: I just saw Mec's other post. You do not have to believe it for it to be true since it has been proven! Why do you think they can not check until after a certain week during pregnancy if the baby is going to be a boy or a girl? It's because of the hormones that are released by the body because our genetics tell it to at a certain time (you know the whole boy or girl spermy, or do you not believe in that either)

Edited by Shera, 01 August 2004 - 01:14 AM.

[Mec]

Eww!  Dumb animals!  But do the other animals hang around them?  I bet not.

Now, the difference is, between my quote and the other is:

Gay people needlessly make people uncomfortable, why can't they behave normally?  They CAN help it.  This is selfish too, they want to do what they do and don't care about other people.

Abortion is selfish also, it makes me have less money through social security.

Everybody has to go through SOME discomfort in like, if you're going to try to unleash it on the public, you are going to be stopped.

And I will prepare to defend my religious beliefs because they are RIGHT!



The only was to escape discomfort during pregnancy is to abort the baby, which is selfish.  You'll have to live with SOME discomfort, remember, your mother did the same for you.

I do not, and will not believe unless you show me evidence/proof, that adortion has anything to do with our Social Security. I think it's a baseless argument.

As for having an abortion to not have discomfort, maybe there are some women that do that, I do not know. Besides who is to say that an abortion is comfortable? Many women have spotting and severe cramping afterwards. But why would they when they have drugs that they give women to take away the pain during the birth itself which I am told is a LOT more painful then the actually pregnancy. So I dont think discomfort has anything to do with it for a lot of women. Again prove me wrong. If you can I will admit I'm wrong.

Sorry but gay people do not make me uncomfortable. Quite the opposite. I have gay friends. Seeing two people that are obviously in love does not make me uncomfortable. There is enough hate and bad things in this world that I find it pointless to hate someone just for wanting to love someone else that happens to be their same gender. I dont see how wanting to love someone else is selfish. Frankly I think it is selfish to try and deny someone that, no it's worse then selfish it's cruel and inhumane.

Edit: I just saw Mec's other post. You do not have to believe it for it to be true since it has been proven! Why do you think they can not check until after a certain week during pregnancy if the baby is going to be a boy or a girl? It's because of the hormones that are released by the body because our genetics tell it to at a certain time (you know the whole boy or girl spermy, or do you not believe in that either)

Abortion = lessening of population.

Lessening of population = less working class.

Less working class = less social security.

Bingo!


Don't the hormones start in the umm... genitals? If you have a certain one you will get certain types of hormones.

Anyway, I love my family, can I marry them? Maybe, one just... wouldn't.

[Mec]

actually i have not met one person that i have ever made uncomfortable but you. i am acting normal just not according to your standards. i cant help being gay ITS NOT OUR CHOICE, no matter how much you think it is it isnt. and im not being selfish for loving someone, you are for not letting me. who made religion?man. who wrote the bible?man. who thinks its right?man. im so sure god wanted us all to make different religions to further seperate us and ultimatly ruin society because of what we belive. because of religion people hate each other and kill each other, does that sound like a good thing? i cant belive how stupid you are, you arent gay, you dont know how we think, you are not god, you dont pass jugdement, you cant tell me what i am or why i am the way i am, im not gay because i am trying to rebel, im gay because i am in love with a man, i could never possibly be in love with a woman and im not going to lie just because some little punk is afraid of how someone can be happy with themselves. god made man according to religion, god loves us all according to religion, and according to religion god hates gays, according to religion god does not hate any of us, so gods either a hypocrite or, someone is lying, and it seems like religion is. you will never control me and my emotions mec, and i will marry the man i love and you can just sit and sulk with your little book saying that its all wrong but im just going to smile because im not bound to a false life. you are not everybody in the world so stop saying that everybody feels the same way as you. bottom line I love a man and you cant do anything about it.

Actually according to religion god loves everybody, though sometimes I find that difficult to believe.

Anyway, I don't buy the hormone think, prove that that's the way it works.

[Mec]

you have common sense?

Apparently more than you do....

[Moonside]

i dont know anything about politics so yea

[Zylia]

Abortion = lessening of population.

Lessening of population = less working class.

Less working class = less social security.

Bingo!

Abortion isn't that huge that the population is lessening. Honestly we need some lessening because there are many families out there without food or shelter.

Mec. You amaze me. Abortions aren't sooo common that they will put a dent in the population. Even so, lessening the population has jack nuts to do with less working class, let alone social security. Do you even know what social security is? Social security is the money that is drawn out from every single persons paychecks. This money is deposited into the Social Security fund and is used on such programs as medicare, medicaid and welfare. The money that my generation is putting into this fund will never even be used on us. It is used to support people who need assistance NOW.

You know the real cause, with actual facts believe it or not, of the social security crisis? The baby boomer generation is hitting retirement age. This means that much more money will be drawn out from the fund trying to support a larger number of people than it is used to handling.

That equation was worse than the 'route of all evil' equation involving women and money.

[Stotic]

Do you actually think that our money now is going to a "Social Security 'fund.'" lol There is no fund! Sorry to burst your bubble. Our social security funds are just a part of the budget for spending. The reason why retirees have ss and medicare is through bonds. Bonds that will payed off with bonds that will eventually be payed off by bonds.

[Stotic]

Mec, tell me why no one's on your side? Why does majority favor against you? Doesn't majority rule?

[Thunderja]

Give him a break, he is only a wee wippersnapper.

Mec try waiting a few years to have a discussion about these topics as you are of a too early age to argue with any real knowledge. Your opinion sounds like you are just repeating what others have said and told you, and I don't believe it is truely from you.

With age comes experience, and I doubt you have even dealt with many of these topics you are arguing for or against.

[Thunderja]

actually i have not met one person that i have ever made uncomfortable but you. i am acting normal just not according to your standards. i cant help being gay ITS NOT OUR CHOICE, no matter how much you think it is it isnt. and im not being selfish for loving someone, you are for not letting me. who made religion?man. who wrote the bible?man. who thinks its right?man. im so sure god wanted us all to make different religions to further seperate us and ultimatly ruin society because of what we belive. because of religion people hate each other and kill each other, does that sound like a good thing? i cant belive how stupid you are, you arent gay, you dont know how we think, you are not god, you dont pass jugdement, you cant tell me what i am or why i am the way i am, im not gay because i am trying to rebel, im gay because i am in love with a man, i could never possibly be in love with a woman and im not going to lie just because some little punk is afraid of how someone can be happy with themselves. god made man according to religion, god loves us all according to religion, and according to religion god hates gays, according to religion god does not hate any of us, so gods either a hypocrite or, someone is lying, and it seems like religion is. you will never control me and my emotions mec, and i will marry the man i love and you can just sit and sulk with your little book saying that its all wrong but im just going to smile because im not bound to a false life. you are not everybody in the world so stop saying that everybody feels the same way as you. bottom line I love a man and you cant do anything about it.

On the 8th day God said...

"Let there be paragraphs!"

Gays make me uncomfortable, I can't help that either.

Maybe just like Mec can't help been stupid but if thats what he believes so be it, you are judging him and his religion and his choices in life just like you complained about him doing which makes you just as bad, just slightly less controversial lol.

[Zylia]

Do you actually think that our money now is going to a "Social Security 'fund.'"  lol  There is no fund!  Sorry to burst your bubble.  Our social security funds are just a part of the budget for spending.  The reason why retirees have ss and medicare is through bonds.  Bonds that will payed off with bonds that will eventually be payed off by bonds.

Stotic is right about the budget issues. It's supose to be used to aid in retirement but I forgot all about the government spending of it. Most of what should be our Social Security surplus is being spent on other things than it should. If I remember right I think that Bush vowed a 'lockbox' policy on Social Security. Guess he changed his mind...
Heres an excerpt from http://slate.msn.com/id/2093707/ talking about the Bush administration going back on it's initial promise.

In the 2000 campaign, Vice President Al Gore said we should sequester the Social Security surpluses in a "lockbox" to prevent appropriators from spending them. Bush agreed in principle. But that commitment went out the window soon after the inauguration. In his first three budgets, Bush (who had the good fortune to take office at a time when the surpluses were growing rapidly) and Congress used $480 billion in excess Social Security payroll taxes to fund basic government operations—about $160 billion per year!

I do however, think that the Republican push for Privitization may be good. With the Democrats, they want to raise taxes or cut benefits. I'm a Democrat but I don't share their viewpoint on this. I'm hoping to see Privitization become the solution to the crisis. If not for me, at least for the next generation. As I read elsewhere, it would be the 'ultimate lockbox,' as the government could not touch private funds.

Mec, tell me why no one's on your side? Why does majority favor against you? Doesn't majority rule?

We win!!! I'd also like to point out that even our congress shot down Bush's bid to make a ban on gay-marriage a Constitutional Amendment.

Edited by Zylia, 01 August 2004 - 12:53 PM.

[Mec]

No, actually, you've lost.

Gay's do what they do on purpose, I just don't buy the hormone thingy, nobody has offered me proof, and even if they do, it's faulty. You won't buy my religious beliefs, I don't but the hormone stuff.

Secondly I'd like to point out what kind of people are arguing here: a gay, a pagan, a dislexic, and last, maybe even least, a child.

And they all lose to the child!

I've been too soft on you pathetic liberals.

You can't argue with it, I'm right:

Gay's choose to do something that mkake people uncomfortable, that's right, they CHOOSE to. Ohoo, Caesar was gay... no.. wait, he had a wife, I don't think he's really gay. The Raja's in india could order people to sleep with them, and people did. Why did the raja do it? Because he could and it was for pleasure.

Oh besides, afireinside? Beware the ides of march.

So pretty much, today, with the corrupt surpreme court, and the junky, ignorant liberals all over the place, gays can get away with what they want to do, and since morality counts for little in modern times, they can just do whatever they want to do. Since alcoholics and druggies are prevented from some places because of their practices, so should gays.


Abortion is selfish, a woman's "right to privacy" is NOT equal to a child's life. A life is more precious than anything, and they just toss it away for their own selfish reasons. In rape cases, it's not the child's fault that he came into existence, h's innocent. You can't just kill him like that! He NEVER did anything to you!

Most abortions are done so they don't know they have been sleeping around with people. Selfish people DONT WANT TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS. Half of this would be prevented if certain behavior was not encouraged by the worthless, ignorant, donkeys.

Ignorant dems, America is not all economical, and people should not have to pay for OTHER PEOPLE being selfish.

Alright, I'm angry, IGNORANCE makes my angry, you BUMS.

Now go get a life and don't bother this discussion again. You are WRONG!

Bush is better for America for the simple reason that he does what is RIGHT. Sometimes he can be wrong about what is right economically, but it is a very difficult job. Kerry doesn't even know what he STANDS FOR, how the hey could he run a country. How the hey could he 'do better'? He's an irresponsible BRAT. (yummmm!) Can't even take responsibility for falling off his BIKE, for Pete's sake. And he's a weak president too, just look at the way he pitches .

The ignorant donkeys and the republicans should have baseball match. Actually, I don't think the dems could even keep score.

Get a life, and THEN discuss it.

To save a bit of trouble, the next post is going to be about the stupid, false hormony thingy again. My response if going to be: "prove it, oh, and while you're at it, get a life"

[afireinside]

mec you are the only ignorant one, everyones against you yet you still think you win, theres been evidence but you dont want to listen, for the last time i didnt choose. you are so stupid how many times do i have to say it YOU ARENT GAY, so how in the hell would you know if we choose or not, and just because your parents may have taught you that being gay is wrong guess what, mommy and daddy were wrong. you think you win because you just go back to the same thing religion says, thats bull, that is nothing to go on, your ideas are irrational and false, you need to learn about the world and see that it doesnt revolve around that little book.
and another thing mec you have failed to answer the question everybody keeps asking, how do gay people hurt you? i dont give a damn if you dont like being around gay people, chances are if you dont like gay people i dont like you, but dont try and take away rights just because you are afraid that you will see someone happy.
another thing that bothered me was your reference to booger eaters, you said yourself if someone was eating a bogger near you you wouldnt want to be around him, but you didnt say he eats boogers he shouldnt be able to get married, i dont care if you dont want to be near me, in fact i like it that way, anyone thats as ignorant and childish as you doesnt deserve my company.
i have no idea what its like to be straight but i dont go off and say oh this is the way you think and this is the way you work, because i have no clue as do you have no idea how gay people think and work. you have no foundation to your argument other than the fact that you are uncomfortable, deal with it.
the funny thing is, you probably know a lot of gay people but just dont know it, your best friend could be gay, wouldnt that be funny if all your friends were gay because you would then have to get rid of them all because you are immature.


have a nice life mec, trust me it wont be an easy one if you think you can hide from every gay person in the world.

[Mec]

mec you are the only ignorant one, everyones against you yet you still think you win, theres been evidence but you dont want to listen, for the last time i didnt choose. you are so stupid how many times do i have to say it YOU ARENT GAY, so how in the hell would you know if we choose or not, and just because your parents may have taught you that being gay is wrong guess what, mommy and daddy were wrong. you think you win because you just go back to the same thing religion says, thats bull, that is nothing to go on, your ideas are irrational and false, you need to learn about the world and see that it doesnt revolve around that little book.
  and another thing mec you have failed to answer the question everybody keeps asking, how do gay people hurt you? i dont give a damn if you dont like being around gay people, chances are if you dont like gay people i dont like you, but dont try and take away rights just because you are afraid that you will see someone happy.
    another thing that bothered me was your reference to booger eaters, you said yourself if someone was eating a bogger near you you wouldnt want to be around him, but you didnt say he eats boogers he shouldnt be able to get married, i dont care if you dont want to be near me, in fact i like it that way, anyone thats as ignorant and childish as you doesnt deserve my company.
    i have no idea what its like to be straight but i dont go off and say oh this is the way you think and this is the way you work, because i have no clue as do you have no idea how gay people think and work. you have no foundation to your argument other than the fact that you are uncomfortable, deal with it.
    the funny thing is, you probably know a lot of gay people but just dont know it, your best friend could be gay, wouldnt that be funny if all your friends were gay because you would then have to get rid of them all because you are immature.


    have a nice life mec, trust me it wont be an easy one if you think you can hide from every gay person in the world.

Who are you to say that murdering is wrong then? You aren't any murderer.

You do choose to be gay. I don't believe you, I think your biased, you WANT to do what you do, so you do.

You just keep on saying the same thing over and over again. You do the thingy for 'pleasure' not because you have to.

Nobody ever said gay people couldn't be married, just not to eachother.

No, I don't think you have a life.

Go get one and then talk, ignorant baby.
No, not everyone is against me, ignorant one.

Penguin seems to be with me.

And most of all GOD is with me, I'd like to see you argue with him. Gay people don't hurt me in the least: I stay away from them, it's just they doggone are doing something wrong. How do murderers who kill other people hurt you? It's wrong and I'll stand up for what I believe in. I haven't been asked how gay people have hurt me, and if I have been, I didn't really notice it.

How do gay people hurt me?


ReadHere

You must face the CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS. Selfish one.

Get a life, then come back.

Edited by Mec, 01 August 2004 - 09:03 PM.

[Stotic]

www.intellectualconservative.com

You can't bring bias into an argument. Mec, I'm a registered republican. Just face the fact that your wrong Mec. It kills you that you can't convince any of us to fall down and praise you for endowing us with your knowledge. But According to your profile, your only 13. Live life a little bit before you judge. Wait til you get a job. One of the proper rules of a debate is to acknowledge that your opponent says and then rebuttle on his/her statement. You have not acknowledged anything of anyone's and continue to speak your own agenda. Congratz the floor is yours, but your all alone. If your such a Bush supporter you'd be happy to know that the medicare bill he passed will have you paying up your ass when you get older. You're too young for politics. Politicians rarely benefit the younger population. Why? Because people under 30 hardly vote in comparison to the way senior citizens do. Stick to Telecare and not CNN.

[Zylia]

Mec.

Hormone imbalances are proven through science using age old scientific processes. They are tested and retested numerous times until something brings the scientists testing them to a final conclusion as to whats occuring. Your reasoning in proving them wrong is: Because its not right. (Which most of us are translating as 'I can't think of a logical explanation.')

Prove your reasoning now, including facts as to why its right - not your young and clearly halfwitted opinions.

[Mec]

Sorry, I haven't been given any evidence I am wrong. So quit saying I am wrong and just

stfu

until you give me adequate proof. Nobody has yet linked to a site that has shown any experiment or anything saying that hormone imbalances create gay people.

And no-one yet has shown me why there are a bunch of gay people popping up all of this sudden when there were few a couple centuries ago.

I believe that people choose what they do, and gay people choose to be gay. They must face the consequences of the actions.

Now, QUIT SAYING I AM WRONG UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE IT, IGNORANT WINE-CARRYING DONKEYS

I've been too soft on you immature, stupid, idiots.


Afireinside, since I don't know about being gay, because I'm not gay, how can the surpreme court justices or Lich or Zylia or whoever say that there is nothing wrong with being gay. How would they know, they're not gay (I hope).





Why should I have to prove my reasoning if you don't have to?

I will anyway though.

Do the parts fit with gay couples? No.

Does it just gross some people out? Yes.

Is marriage between a man and a man, or a woman and a woman? No, that's not what the word means.

Can a gay couple have kids together? No.



Now, with a real marriage:

Do the parts fit? Yes.

Does it gross some people out? Not that I've heard of.

Does the definition fit? Yes.

Can they have kids together? Usually


I don't care, it's not the stupid hormones that make some people a man and some people a woman. It's what they are!

I don't know, you might as well say that certain people are 'rabbits', or that you stupid IGNORANT people are donkeys!

So, grow up, get a life, and then prove I'm wrong, which you can't because YOU are wrong, morons.

P.S.

Hi!

Edited by Mec, 02 August 2004 - 01:28 AM.

[Stotic]

And no-one yet has shown me why there are a bunch of gay people popping up all of this sudden when there were few a couple centuries ago.

It's because people can do things now. You didn't see woman senators back in the day. You didn't see blacks allowed to do things. Minorities have rights now. That is why gays who are minorities are stepping up. Because they are legally being allowed too and they aren't being as heavily looked down upon by society.

[Cule]

some animals have sex with the same gender sometimes, cats for example.

gay couples should'nt have the right to have kids tho, a child needs both, mother and father.

just my 2 cents.

[Mec]

And no-one yet has shown me why there are a bunch of gay people popping up all of this sudden when there were few a couple centuries ago.

It's because people can do things do. You didn't see woman senators back in the day. You didn't see blacks allowed to do things. Minorities have rights now. That is why gays who are minorities are stepping up. Because they are legally being allowed too and they aren't being as heavily looked down upon by society.

Gays aren't the same. They are different because of their practices.

There are more now because they are allowed to do it, they know it is wrong and can NOW get away with it.

Caesar way gay, he had the power to be.

The indian dudes that that one guy has mentioned, they had power, they oculd do it.

Imo, if people are alowed to do something wrong, they will do it, and they wouldn't if they couldn't.

Minorities are people, thety should have equal rights. But alcoholics can't go certain places because of their practices, so neither should gays.

Alchololics have something to do with genetics also. My ancestors were heavy drinkers and got addicted in their first try, it would be the same for me.

Gays could 'help' not being gay way back when, come come they can't 'help' do it now? Humm?

[Penguin]

HOE-LEE nuts

I don't read it for maybe 2 days and 2 new pages show up.

Ugh, anyway, seem like the conversation has becae very gay.

Lets see... from what I've gathered you guys think being gay is fine and its not their fault and its a-ok?

first of all /t afireinside not everyone is against him, just the general nightmist population. Does that not imply something in and of itself.

A: Being gay is a choice. Every move you make is your choice (don't be retarded about this one example if a tornado blows me away while I'm sleeping that move wasn't my choice).

B: Its obvious that because some now see it as acceptable, it has cause a substancial increase in homoism.

C: Being gay is un-Christian; that's already been established I'm sure. It is NOT normal/usual behavior. It is not safe. Many adopts kids, which is another problem in and of itself. It is the #1 way aids is spread.


And without reading all of the above post I won't say more, but I'll try to keep on top of things from this post on.

[Zylia]

Secondly I'd like to point out what kind of people are arguing here: a gay, a pagan, a dislexic, and last, maybe even least, a child.

The 'kind of people' you are talking about are your fellow American citizens believe it or not. It doesn't matter whether or not they are a gay, a pagan, a dyslexic, or any other thing that you can present in a discriminatory manner. Just curious, what do you classify me as? I'm none of the above but I'm standing up for the exact same principles that they are. I'm an 18 year old, straight, athiest female. Find something wrong with me.

Mec, I'm done. You be the discriminating moron that you want to be. I hope as you grow older you learn to respect the ideas of other people rather than harshly reject them without a second thought.

[two]

you see if the gays get power, then they'll turn everyone gay. is that what you want? you want to get the gay? next thing you'll know there will be communists instead of repulicans, women working while the men stay at home, and dogs walking the owners.

for the love of God, we must not let gay people have rights. we should persecute them and burn them at the stake for doing whatever they do. adn burn any books written by gay people, and burn any paintings inspired by homosexual feelings, and completely delete any movies about homosexuality from our recods.

after all, homosexuality is tolerated in other places, like france, and we hate the french.

[Wafer]

you see if the gays get power, then they'll turn everyone gay. is that what you want? you want to get the gay? next thing you'll know there will be communists instead of repulicans, women working while the men stay at home, and dogs walking the owners.

for the love of God, we must not let gay people have rights. we should persecute them and burn them at the stake for doing whatever they do. adn burn any books written by gay people, and burn any paintings inspired by homosexual feelings, and completely delete any movies about homosexuality from our recods.

after all, homosexuality is tolerated in other places, like france, and we hate the french.

LMAO

[Thunderja]

you see if the gays get power, then they'll turn everyone gay. is that what you want? you want to get the gay? next thing you'll know there will be communists instead of repulicans, women working while the men stay at home, and dogs walking the owners.

for the love of God, we must not let gay people have rights. we should persecute them and burn them at the stake for doing whatever they do. adn burn any books written by gay people, and burn any paintings inspired by homosexual feelings, and completely delete any movies about homosexuality from our recods.

after all, homosexuality is tolerated in other places, like france, and we hate the french.

I'm down, you leave hot lesbian porn out of this tho!

[jurian]

hmm i didn't read all posts but i c that mec keeps whining on how he has no prove about that he is wrong. maybe you should prove us that you are right mec. you jsut say it is wrong because i/my religion sais it's wrong. show me a link or a website that proves what you say.

[Mec]

I have proved I am right. They should prove I am wrong now.

My bad Zylia, I had thought two different people posting about that 'pagen'(spelled wrong, by the way) and dislexic.

Anyway, in my book, atheists are stubborn donkeys.

Mec, I'm done. You be the discriminating moron that you want to be. I hope as you grow older you learn to respect the ideas of other people rather than harshly reject them without a second thought.

It is you who are rejecting ideas. I say, the parts don't fit, you ignore me. I say, it's not moral, you ignore me. Quit being the pathetic idiot you are and admit you are wrong, you coward. You could argue with me if you wanted to, and probably could win, if you were right. But you're not, so admit it.

[Mec]

Oh jurian, look above on this page, I posted a link I believe, but it was rejected because of the URL, of all things.