90 replies to this topic

[Xlithan]

issy, i think what you said is crap. A new born baby isn't suddenly gay just because of its genes. It doesn't pop out gay lol. People go through life, and make CHOISES, just like i chose music as a main hobby, computers as a second, the type of clothes i wear, the music i listen to, all by choice, not genes.

[Issy]

And apparently you don't read enough science magazines, it wasn't but 3-4 months ago and they proved it is genes.

You read a science magazine ones and now all of a sudden you think you know what you're talking about?

“Various theories have proposed differing sources for sexual orientation...However, many scientists share the view that sexual orientation is shaped for most people at an early age through complex interactions of biological, psychological and social factors.”

It isn't that easy to just say it's in the genes.

Suprisingly, i probably know more than you in many aspects. Not because i 'read a science magazine' but because of what i do and what i've achieved in life. And not only because i've read 'a science magazine' but more then one biological scientists has said this.

And really, your one to talk Angelus; You read a science magazine ones and now all of a sudden you think you know what you're talking about?

And to say this in proper english "You read a science magazine 'once' and now all of a sudden you think you know what you're talking about?"


You should just got protest how 'wrong' homosexuality is, because you're truely one to speak.

For all that didn't know; people who are against homosexuality, or is a homophob, is usually insecure because they've had homosexual thoughts. Or is possibly a homosexual and does not want to admit it.

[Xlithan]

or just generally thinks it's wrong, like old people (damn you old people and your tradition crap). lol

[Kalypso]

I don't see what gives anyone the right to dertermine who should get married or what not. Male or female if you love someone, you should be able to celebrate that love by getting married if you so wish to do so.

I can understand why homosexuals getting married scare people, but really it shouldn't be any of our buisness. To each his or her own.

And well, homophobia is just ignorant..We're in the year 2004, stop being so close minded!

[Thrice]

Having homophobia is a term people use wrongly, it means you're scared like Arachnaphobia, people who say they are homophobic just say it to act 'cool' or to say they hate gays, but the point of it is, they use the term wrong.

[Squee]

I think I'd just like to add that Mrs. Rosie O'Donnel just got married recently. She married another woman (whose name slips my mind) and I think this is great!

After their wedding, Rosie made a huge speech about how gays are people, too. She went on and on but I don't want to site examples since a lot of the stuff she said has already been posted.

Anyways, after her marriage, President Bush said that he was going to "amend the constitution" so that it inludes gay rights.

Go team. XD

[Vodka]

I voted for the 2nd to last one, didn't know the difference between the 1st one and that one.. *shrugs*

The reason why... I say they can do as they please.. people need to stop being so judgemental.. and let people live their own lives.. the way they want to. I just don't see anything wrong with gay people.. let alone gay marriages.. doesn't bother me a bit.

[Foxie]

Gays should have the right to marry:

This is only my personal opinion, there has been much hype over the marriage/union/blessing between same sex couples. Altho untraditional times have changed, there is nothing to say one woman cannot love another woman in the same way a man could and vice vesa. I have had both relationships with women and men and to me my feelings were not based upon sex (male/female). It's common knowlege that people fall for someone because of money, looks and other things but unless there is a connection between personalities no1 stands a chance of a happy relationship, so if looks, money, social-background shudnt matter why should their sex?

[Issy]

lmfao...No-where did i say homosexuality is wrong, infact i'm for it. Just so people like you can actually be happy in the US.

'steroetyping' is a sign of ignorance?? yeaaaaa..no. Everyone stereo-types, your just to full of yourself to realize that even you do.

And the 'steroetype' deems itself true, in your case anyways.

Bring it, i'll even reply in dutch.

Edited by Issy, 29 February 2004 - 05:26 PM.

[Xlithan]

you're all narrow minded.

[Rappy_Ninja]

I BE SAID THAT GAY PEEPS SHOULD BE GET MARRIED


JOIN Granny's house of pain!!

I lost even more respect for you then before

[Xlithan]

I BE SAID THAT GAY PEEPS SHOULD BE GET MARRIED


JOIN Granny's house of pain!!

I lost even more respect for you then before

POW! this is about to go extremely off-topic =D

[Wolfgang]

Everyone is capable of stereotyping, and many people do (whether or not they abide by, or let the stereotyping that they do affect them).

But stereotyping is not the issue. And if it was: I am not a femm. No one could call me that. I am butch. I am gay. I am not an alcoholic, i do not have bareback sex with anonomous partners. I do not have limp wrists (though i do love the band Limp Wrist), i have the worst fashion sense ever, and i probably couldnt dance to save my life. I like punk rock, and loathe poppy music. I do not mind bugs, and i do not have sex with animals.

There. And or all stereotypes (whether accurate or not) of gays have just been dispelled. They do apply to some, but not all. Not even most.

[Issy]

Omdat ik zeg dat ze een gen missen betekent niet dat ik ertegen ben. Ik ben er juist voor, omdat ze het simpel weg niet kunnen helpen.

Antwoord in Nederlands a.u.b.

[Deval]

If people were mirrors, I suppose I'd totally be gay.

[Xlithan]

Issy nobody said you were against it, it's just not a gene thing, there isn't a certain part of your body which makes you wanna be gay other than your mind.

Some people turn gay because of the people they hang out with, some people turn gay because of their family, some people turn gay because they got drunk one night, kissed somebody of the same sex, liked it, and wanted to do it some more. It's about choice.

Oh and sorry, but i can type faster in english

If people were mirrors, I suppose I'd totally be gay.

LOL! good one

Edited by Squiggle, 01 March 2004 - 01:01 AM.

[Wolfgang]

But it really kind of is a gene thing. Complex gene pairs can determine a persons sexuality... or at least thats what they think.

Its not nessicarily a missing gene. But even if it was, it doesnt mean that its a disease. It is just a slight genetic variation that makes up slightly different than heterosexuals...

[Xlithan]

so how come, that in old days, gay people were VERY VERY rare, if any at all. is this some kind of new gene going around or something?

[Kharybdis]

Somehow I doubt that people were as willing to be honest about their sexual tendencies in the "old days" as they are now.

[Xlithan]

that happens anyway, and i think it's pathetic

[Dc]

In God We Trust

[Xlithan]

In God We Trust

or not. But please don't start with that god crap, i get annoyed each and everytime somebody brings up the topic.

[Squee]

so how come, that in old days, gay people were VERY VERY rare, if any at all.  is this some kind of new gene going around or something?

In the time of the ancient Greeks and Turks, mighty warriors would be gay. The reason for this was, if their partner died in battle, it would just fuel their rage and make them fight harder. Also, if their partner was in danger, naturally, the other would fight to the last breath to protect him.

However, this was something I heard from my cousin (a reliable source) but I have no actual evidence of this.

Of course, I do have evidence that the first Olympics were held in the nude. It's been a while since I've read this article but I think it had something to do with homosexuality. Something about rarity...I'm not entirely sure.

Anyways, I'd thought I bring up these two points to show you that homosexuality does, indeed, date back.

Edit: I have terrible spelling.

Edited by Squee, 02 March 2004 - 02:19 AM.

[Squee]

...please don't start with that god crap, i get annoyed each and everytime somebody brings up the topic.

You can't just call God crap...You'll offend a lot of people.

Anyways, what I think what you were referring to were the arguments that The Bible condemns homosexuality. In reality, the New Testament tells us to live lovingly and that to live that way is the most important thing. More important than traditions, than rules, than regulations.

"Do unto others" is the golden rule. For lack of a better word, it "out trumps" everything else in The Bible.

[Xlithan]

yes it does, and the greek stuff is indeed true.... thats it, im looking up about it, ima go prove myself wrong now lol....


EDIT: http://www.narth.com...stheregene.html

Edited by Squiggle, 02 March 2004 - 02:20 AM.