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#31 Matt

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:49 PM

I thank you all for your support, but don't go getting yourself in trouble because of this.

It really all boils down to the Terms of Service for nightmist, they were horribly written (nothing personal Edix) and technically this banning and past like this are illegal even by their own Terms of Service.

Look at my last post above this one, look at the wording used in the TOS, specifically note the ONLY in the second line.
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#32 Dan

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:50 PM

maybe a dumb question but what the hell...

If he was allowed to do it once before with permission, how is doing it again any more wrong? I mean had he gotten an ok for a second time it would be overlooked as once before.

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:54 PM

If you don't like these rules, get the hell off my game.

I fear if all were honest, you'd have no more players...


It's a shame to see history repeat itself; Post made with little info - Players fill in gaps - Someone gets angry and further mistakes are made - All ended by afew clicks on Lock/Delete.
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#34 Matt

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:56 PM

If you don't like these rules, get the hell off my game.

I fear if all were honest, you'd have no more players...

That was incredibly brave of you. *claps*
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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:56 PM

I believe a perm ban is a too much, considering all the other rules that are broken (like stealing crits). However, it does say perm ban for the offense. it also says,

"without attempting to decieve people, because this just wastes valuable time."

I may have taken that out of context, but I believe it should apply in cases where people knowling try to set up another player soley for the purpose and intent to see them punished.

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:59 PM

matt if u wana get outa ban get me on msn ill add you :P i have found sommit to a certain extent jlh will have to follow ^_^

Edited by Bun, 13 October 2004 - 12:03 AM.

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:01 AM

Spill is first to enjoy a forum ban. Anyone else want to question me? If you're going to make comments about corruption and abuse of power, I might as well flaunt the power I have to remove scum that have nothing better to do than spread deception and lies.
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#38 Matt

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:04 AM

For freaks sake, I thank you all incredibly for your support. But do not get in trouble on my account, I'll handle this, If anyone wants to voice their support please e-mail JLH or Pandilex or MSN them, but please do not get in trouble.
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#39 Bun

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:04 AM

can we all sign a partician to get matt back cuz this is bs....


p.s dont ban me plz...
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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:07 AM

Matt's happy to let it die, so let's all respect his wishes shall we.
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#41 Bun

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:11 AM

he didnt just say that on msn
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#42 Matt

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:12 AM

I just don't want to see anyone else get in trouble because of me. I would like to see everyone post their opinons here, but don't get in trouble.
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#43 Lady_Maha

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:14 AM

For freaks sake, I thank you all incredibly for your support. But do not get in trouble on my account, I'll handle this, If anyone wants to voice their support please e-mail JLH or Pandilex or MSN them, but please do not get in trouble.

I respect your wishes. Since I can't talk to Simon on MSN anymore (I feel blocked) rest assured that that e-mail to JLH will be on it's way within minutes after this post. I hope people will follow my example.
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#44 Matt

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:15 AM

Thank You
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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:28 AM

ive also sent an email to jlh :P
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Posted 13 October 2004 - 12:30 AM

As have I and im also waiting as soon as i see him on MSN, What i said still stands.
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#47 PureMourning

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 01:02 AM

Foremost, I wish to say that I don’t think this thread should become locked, it’s quite an ideal passage for expressing ideas and beliefs on the truth on NightMist. Even though Simon has stated that he doesn’t care about our opinions, we’re still perfectly capable of sharing them (which I think is for the better). If this thread does get locked/deleted I believe that’s just showing fear in the people who run it. Perhaps they’re not willing to face it.

Is it not true? The people are the game. So anyone who has the greater power over the development of the game, would be a fool not to care about their opinions. And if they truly don’t, then the whole ‘Development’ section of the forum is a waste.

Absolutely sensational! You got perm-banned, you should feel special. But, anyone with even undersized common sense can see that this is rigged. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not necessarily saying he shouldn’t have been banned, but the modest mechanics of the situation are off the mark. I find it amusing that Simon has yet to answer some of the most basic questions… surely it couldn’t hurt, could it?

‘If he committed the same ‘crime’ in Pandi’s eyes in the past with JLH’s acknowledgement, why is he getting severely punished now?’

‘Ed/Bill got perm. banned and came back. So –why- was their banned thrown off?’

It simply comes down to the fact that humans aren’t perfect. Therefore, they make mistakes. Humans do not solve problems using a full proof method of problem solving. (Simon demonstrates this well).

I’m not trying to crack down harshly on the game or the staff, even though I feel sometimes they may be out of line, but simply voicing my opinion (if we’re still allowed to do that). Not sure, the game hasn’t been installed on my comp. for numerous months.

PS. /t Dracoden – If it took you ALL that time to realize the sorry condition of the game, you’re simply a dumbass. Here Imma write a guide especially for you.

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 01:10 AM

Hey now, i was forum banned along time ago...dont say he was the first...outside trading has happened alot and will continue to keep happening

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 01:28 AM

People have said MANY times before... THIS IS A GAME... there is NO point in fighting it. If JLH thinks it was ok for him to do it, then he'll be back, its that simple. You can still talk to him on MSN/AIM if you would like to. He is NOT gone forever. Although to US it seems unfair, we, despite wut we all think we know, DO NOT know what has really happend.

If you are going to fight over something as stupid as a game that means NOTHING in real life, then i got sumthing for you...

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 02:17 AM

The point is that people, many people, have spent quite a bit of time playing the game, and those people do not want to see all of the stuff they've been playing with taken away without good reason and proof, nor do they want to be cheated out of it or tricked into losing it. We also have friends; anyone would attempt to stand up for a friend in the situation of thinking they were being wrongfully punished.


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I really would like to know what's going on, and if you won't tell us why about certain things, then what are we suppose to think?

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#51 Kalypso

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 03:10 AM

Matt knew the rules, he got banned..I'm sure his ban will get lifted in the future, they all do.


Damn I hate school and work it makes me miss out all the Nightmist Drama..not cool :P
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Posted 13 October 2004 - 03:13 AM

erm :P ... /t pandi maybe you should post full story so you wont be acused of things...
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#53 Epic

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 03:17 AM

I'm sure Ed and Pandilex came up with this idea together, were amongst the changers...the changers..congrautlations :P

#54 Matt

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 03:36 AM

I've spoke with JLH on MSN regarding this, although I havent talked with Pandilex directly because he has me blocked on MSN and AIM.

It's really no biggie, the banning (hopfully temp) will get me to go get a job to save up cash to go meet all of them.

But I _honestly_ did not think this was a big deal, I got permission from JLH at the beginning of the summer (the first time I traded rev for nm) and I thought it would not be much different now. I even asked JLH on msn for permission this time, unfortunatly he was at classes and I did not get an answer.

My own impatience is what got me ban, when I got the offer of 4mil gold from Ed (Pandilex) I just snatched up the deal, I diddnt want to let that type of gold slip through my hands.

I truly thank you all for your support, I hope to be back sooner than later.

If any staff would kindly lock this post it would be appritiated.
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