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[Althea]

If this was even remotely possible, I wouldn't suggest any sort of player vote, nor knowledge of the votes even happening. I'd say leave it all up to staff. If the players know about it, they're gonna try to show the staff they're qualified and over-act about it. I just think the chosen member should just get a random teleport to be debriefed on his staff issues and duties and limitations.

That is a very good point. Honestly I did not think of that. Maybe a submission, like people designing the areas and sending them to staff and staff choosing from there. I suggest this strictly because this gives staff an idea what said person can do.

[Althea]

Why are you worried about staff, becoming staff, or even making new staff members. Why arent the people who THINK they could be staff members actually do something prior to being a staff member. If ur dedicated to new equips and areas go and create them on paper. then come back and run your proposals/ideas to staff or on the forums. Nothing says you have to be a staff member to think things up.

As far as a new staff member there is many key factors to take in consideration:
*the amount of time you can put into the game
*knowledge of the game
*your attitude - this pretty much rules 90% of players out of my vote lol

People have posted with new ideas and staff said there was not enough players. The point was that in order to have more players we need new things to attract players, new and old. Staff is very busy, we all know this. HellsAngel was trying to come up with a compromise. If you doubt posts have been made check out Tietsu's post which is in the same section as this one. I believe he had an absolutely perfect idea and it was tunred down.

[Äññöÿäñcë]

People can't be chosen as staff because of one or two 'cool' ideas. If this was true, Alan would've been staff a long time ago

I do think that this problem needs addressing, on both servers, but I don't see why you are trying to address it. Staff members are needed, but maybe not full staff members. People who have the ability to run moshes, teleport, keep a good events calender going maybe? Something like that. They should also be chosen or nominated by those who are going to be working with them, the staff team themselves. It shouldn't be a popularity vote.

[Althea]

People can't be chosen as staff because of one or two 'cool' ideas. If this was true, Alan would've been staff a long time ago

I do think that this problem needs addressing, on both servers, but I don't see why you are trying to address it. Staff members are needed, but maybe not full staff members. People who have the ability to run moshes, teleport, keep a good events calender going maybe? Something like that. They should also be chosen or nominated by those who are going to be working with them, the staff team themselves. It shouldn't be a popularity vote.

I do agree with not full staff. I think Hells had dsaid that too if not oh well. Very good idea. I wasn't saying it should if it came across that way my apologies.

[Sausage]

Two Staff Positions:
- Event Runner (Very limited abilities. Only able to run events. I don't know if those restricted abilities would interfere with events like Triplex, CTF and such.)
- Assistant Area Developer (Little to no extra abilities. I don't know if they should even be able to actually create areas or rather revise and assist current area development)

[Defeat]

Yes, if somehow a new member was to be chosen, the playerbase shouldn't have any knowledge of it happening until one player is chosen and brought before them.

The two main places they'd be needed would be:

Area Development: Need someone to introduce new areas and bosses to the game. A little more to explore. They should only have powers limited to what they need to do their job(possibly Ban, Mute, Teleport and such if felt necissary).

Events: Yes, I know you say there's someone available for it, but I'm sure he also has other priorities than just events, as well as his mortals. Could just give someone a crit with minor abilities(Teleport, Mute for abruptive players, Mosh commands or anything else needed to run all events that's needed) to be able to do this for the rest of the playerbase.

I know that we can run some events using the whole playerbase, but it's limited. At the time I can only think of 1 form of anything we can run ourselves, which is pay 50k to create a mosh how we wish it to be. Maybe if we coule use the /random command at the Nightmist Arena we could run a Triplex ourselves, though it wouldn't have a prize.

Edited by Defeat, 31 January 2009 - 01:07 AM.

[Äññöÿäñcë]

Cal is my hero.

Clay, I somehow missed that post, but you've got it bang on mate.
Maarten - your train driver analogy appealed to me, I liked that alot haha, missed that out of the last post.

If the current staff team think that an event runner is needed or an area helper then thats fine, if not, then thats fine too. You guys have your IRL issues to take care of, be it studies, work or even family, and that should always come first. There are still areas that haven't been explored fully by the majority of the playerbase, maybe new areas are wanted because old ones are being forgotten? Areas that come to mind are the sewers (levels 4+, which are still a challenge for lower levels but who really needs a Blade of Sacrifice), Genderas (I doubt this area has been touched in a long time, but it is <25. Maybe the level limit could be changed here, and a little boss be added?) and the paths between gnolls, desert and Resthaven are barely used on multi anyway.

I think new areas aren't really needed, as we have too many areas that are not in use. Maybe these areas could be edited in a few ways to make them fun again, but I know this is harder than i'm making it sound.

Edited by Äññöÿäñcë, 31 January 2009 - 01:29 AM.

[Defeat]

That is a good point, even on 1a there are alot of areas unexplored anymore for places of better use, leaving alot of areas un-used. I'd atleast like to see that done, if anything.

[Scripto]

All I got to say about this post is "Lol"

(Please note that I did not read all topics just the main one and a few few random ones that caught my eye {Like Jay pointing out the accounts being made all in the last 24hrs, lol} I will read over it move tomorrow after work maybe... but as it stands right now... Lol....)


<3 Scripto

[HellsAngel]

Yes, if somehow a new member was to be chosen, the playerbase shouldn't have any knowledge of it happening until one player is chosen and brought before them.

Ok to calm things down a little. First I would like to say that i spoke with a staff member (not naming) before I posted this. I stated that we needed someone for event/sections. Was told by this staff member to post it on here and see what players thought. The staff could make a decision. I was only asking for suggestions on who everyone thought would make a good one. I stated my self simply couse it was something i was interested in doing. As i stated many time before at the beginning of this. I am not looking for just one person and if i dont get it so be it i just wana see things get going. I think the revising old areas is a great idea. As for what i ahve quoted up top. yes the person(s) does need to be pulled to the side. This was just to get things going and give the staff and idea of what we thought. I asked that no one fought over it so that it would keep it enjoyable and hopefully get the staff to take us seriously.

Thank you Hells_angel

Edited by HellsAngel, 31 January 2009 - 03:11 AM.

[Althea]

All I got to say about this post is "Lol"

(Please note that I did not read all topics just the main one and a few few random ones that caught my eye {Like Jay pointing out the accounts being made all in the last 24hrs, lol} I will read over it move tomorrow after work maybe... but as it stands right now... Lol....)


<3 Scripto

Absolutely good F-ing job morons. This is why HellsAngel said no fighting. No wonder things aren't getting anywhere with this game. Staff is having too much fun laughing at you guys. And I don't blame them. I would too if I were one of them. In order to get anything done in life people have to cooperate! Instead of taking things seriously and trying to find a way to make things better for everyone. You had to indulge yourselves in petty d**k measuring contests. Good job to those of you who have screwed the game up for the rest of us. I was actually looking forward to Nightmist becoming less stagnant. So much for that idea.

Edited by Althea, 31 January 2009 - 03:17 AM.

[Defeat]

All I got to say about this post is "Lol"

(Please note that I did not read all topics just the main one and a few few random ones that caught my eye {Like Jay pointing out the accounts being made all in the last 24hrs, lol} I will read over it move tomorrow after work maybe... but as it stands right now... Lol....)


<3 Scripto

Absolutely good F-ing job morons. This is why HellsAngel said no fighting. No wonder things aren't getting anywhere with this game. Staff is having too much fun laughing at you guys. And I don't blame them. I would too if I were one of them. In order to get anything done in life people have to cooperate! Instead of taking things seriously and trying to find a way to make things better for everyone. You had to indulge yourselves in petty d**k measuring contests. Good job to those of you who have screwed the game up for the rest of us. I was actually looking forward to Nightmist becoming less stagnant. So much for that idea.

Do note that he hasn't read all of the posts and is trying to schedule sometime soon which he can read it. Once he reads, some of the ideas that myself or anyone else has suggested he could possibly agree with. There's very well some good ideas here and could very well be taken to consideration.

[Walt]

All I got to say about this post is "Lol"

(Please note that I did not read all topics just the main one and a few few random ones that caught my eye {Like Jay pointing out the accounts being made all in the last 24hrs, lol} I will read over it move tomorrow after work maybe... but as it stands right now... Lol....)


<3 Scripto

Absolutely good F-ing job morons. This is why HellsAngel said no fighting. No wonder things aren't getting anywhere with this game. Staff is having too much fun laughing at you guys. And I don't blame them. I would too if I were one of them. In order to get anything done in life people have to cooperate! Instead of taking things seriously and trying to find a way to make things better for everyone. You had to indulge yourselves in petty d**k measuring contests. Good job to those of you who have screwed the game up for the rest of us. I was actually looking forward to Nightmist becoming less stagnant. So much for that idea.

How do you know Scripto was not laughing at you and your husband, and not at us "morons"?

And there was no need for us to whip it out and measure, because it has already been done, and we all know who has the biggest one of the group. If you want to know, search the board and look it up. There are measurements down to the millimeter if you are that intrigued.

[Dekade]

Duh I have the biggest!

[Momba]

I'm thinking as a result of the turnout for the most recent Triplex that we will see more events like this. I got the impression Wes was a little impressed with the turnout as was I. I logged on and 40 had already entered

Elf has been and is currently working on guilds. I don`t believe there is currently a need for a guild that has not been created. So she is ahead of the game on this one. And to my knowledge the only other thing that has been approved and still needs work is a healing monster in the Catacombs.

I find the arguement that we need an expansion of the current map fruitless. There are a huge amount of unexplored areas on the current map. Just looking at the higher level characters in Lëgëñdâry it is obvious there are still many things new for you yet to be explored in Nightmist. Also in reading through the posts on the Nightmist Development page I do not see any well thought areas or alot of support for those suggestions which leads me to believe this might not be best to make the game "more enjoyable".

Since Christmas we have seen an increase in the playerbase as well the amount of time players are staying online. Sadly I'm here most of the day and have witnessed this 1st hand. Now I don't like most of you and the ones I do like already have this info. But what I suggest is asken around trying to get some maps. Or links to some Nightmist info sites. There is alot to do to keep it interesting. I've been cruising areas clicken monsters noting monster pod, gold, damage caused, and a ballpark figure on monster hitpoints charting how much gold I can make per hour versus exp to determine the best areas to train. I know it's a little nerdy but it keeps it interesting.

HUSH AND EXPLORE!!!

[Angelus]

Absolutely good F-ing job morons. This is why HellsAngel said no fighting. No wonder things aren't getting anywhere with this game. Staff is having too much fun laughing at you guys. And I don't blame them. I would too if I were one of them. In order to get anything done in life people have to cooperate! Instead of taking things seriously and trying to find a way to make things better for everyone. You had to indulge yourselves in petty d**k measuring contests. Good job to those of you who have screwed the game up for the rest of us. I was actually looking forward to Nightmist becoming less stagnant. So much for that idea.

Oh no, the great Scripto didn't take this seriously! Why did we let it come to this, wwhhyy!

Also, you got quite the temper there. I'm withdrawing my previous vote. Last we need is another staffer with a temper.
Anyways, if 1a ever get's a new staff it will be up to 2 maybe 3 people only anyways.

Being staff member isn't some divine duty, it's just work. Work you can do without the staff position as well, but most only care about the position, hence if it comes to players we'll have another inactive staff again in no time.

And for now, I will leave you with this thought...choo-choo.



Edit: I made the sound of a tram instead of a train, I corrected it. Can you think of how silly that would make it look, glad I caught it.

Edited by Angelus, 31 January 2009 - 03:00 PM.

[Althea]

I do appologize for my temper. That was uncalled for, this post was supposed to be taken seriously. As HellsAngel said many many times before. It was another staff member that told him to post to see what the playerbase thought and so the staff could see what the players did think. The only replies that were supposed to be on here were yes or no's to the idea of expanding, and nominees for the staff position. The point of there being a new staff member, and I'll say this again, was to take the stress off of the exsiting staff members. That way Elf isn't the only one trying to work on Nightmist. This is what the staff member wanted HellsAngel to do. And as to the staff member position.....Yet again I will say, I am not interested in such a position. I have no time for such a thing, I am a mother of two children who will be starting college as well as a job. I'm going to be hard pressed to do that let alone have time for a game. The players deserve someone who can actually devote at least a descent amount of time to the game.

HellsAngel just brought it to my attention that the way I made it sound was like the staff member agreed with his idea. The staff member just listened to his idea and told him to post it to get the opinions of other people. I am sorry if I made it sound otherwise that was not my intent.

This post was in no meant to sound like I'm sucking up and trying to get people to vote me staff again, or whatever. Even if people did, I would decline. The playerbase deserves someone more dedicated than I could be. My only intent was to applogize for childish behavior after complaining about your guys childish behavior. (what can I say a true American trait, hypocrisy, well more human trait, but w/e lol :-D)

If you choose not to take the appology. Fine, no skin off my nose. I did this because I knew what I did was wrong and I knew I had to fix it. I've corrected my mistake.

edits were due to missing letters from typing with a wrist brace on.

Edited by Althea, 31 January 2009 - 02:38 PM.

[Äññöÿäñcë]

funniest thread ive seen in a long time

what noise exactly does a tram make?!

[Angelus]

It's a Ring Ring sound...although I have to say it's not the definite sound a tram makes. But it's what it projects so people will get out of the way. Also it's the thing I said that I was mistaken about. I hope this doesn't effect the votes cast on me. This isn't an apology, but I just wanted to get the record clean.

Also *hic*

[Prophet]

Another good reason for not employing more staff is that last time it was done it took the crémé of the crop out of the game meaning that once again there was less competition for bosses and such.

[Cadabra]

Well it seems we do need a staffer to run events as the Triplex isnt gonna be ran tonight....

Bit pointless to run it one week and not the next.

[Äññöÿäñcë]

triplex is being ran right now?
with three staff members online?

[Achilles]

hehe..

[-=Deadly Dennis=-]

I do appologize for my temper. That was uncalled for, this post was supposed to be taken seriously. As HellsAngel said many many times before.

It can be just me but he only has 5 post how do u call that MANY MANY times?
and no i dun like this idea sorry

[Cruxis]

Failex the Cat for staff

He's Alex, he's fail, he's all smarty..pants...that douchebag.

Gogogo!

[Isolated]

anyone else notice there's three different forum accounts that posted here that have been created within the past 24 hours?

Clannies that didn't have a forum account .

I support the need for an extra staff that has the time, knowledge, and creativity to make quest/areas, but I don't think he/she needs to be picked by a player base vote because then its just a popularity contest. And that gets no where.

I support that i should be staff I have knowledge.. and am not popular

[Wind]

So many idiots

[Äññöÿäñcë]

i have yet to see any of this knowledge josh lol

[Isolated]

i have yet to see any of this knowledge josh lol

just dont post anymore kier