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Whose The Best In The NFL?
#1
Posted 30 October 2005 - 02:18 PM
Phibi - main / Survivor- 1a
#2
Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:45 AM
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It's San Diego Chargers btw.
#3
Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:48 AM
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It's San Diego Chargers btw.
#4
Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:50 AM
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It's San Diego Chargers btw.
#5
Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:59 AM
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It's San Diego Chargers btw.
#6
Posted 02 November 2005 - 01:31 AM
And by the way, how do you have the Raiders up there and not include the Falcons, Panthers, or Giants?
#7
Posted 02 November 2005 - 01:53 AM
I haven't seen a Colt's game yet, and haven't followed them at all, but they've got a good record. Their offense is really strong, as long as they keep a good defense, there's no reason that they shouldn't become the next AFC dynasty.
Edited by Sneaky, 02 November 2005 - 02:57 AM.
deimos the noob said no
#8
Posted 02 November 2005 - 02:38 AM
or Colts cause they have patton and the #1 defence in the league.
#9
Posted 02 November 2005 - 03:03 AM
#10
Posted 02 November 2005 - 06:49 AM
I agree bout the Raiders. They suck. With their schedule they won't even finish .500. I say they will lose their next 4.And by the way, how do you have the Raiders up there and not include the Falcons, Panthers, or Giants?
Falcons? I live in Atlanta and I am here to tell you Vick sucks. He is the most overrated QB to ever play in the NFL. The retard knew so little about football when he came to the league that they limited the playbook to 25 plays so he wouldn't be confused. And what does he do after each set of downs. Goes and stands on the sidelines and cheerleads. He needs to take some lessons from the Manning brothers and call to the play booth and get em to send a copy of the plays sent down after each downs and study.
The guy has a pass rating on 63.0. And it isn't that he doesn't have any recievers. He just can't get the ball to them because he comes off the snap and plants his feet looking for a running lane instead of an open reciever. Man I can't wait for week 10 to get here. I hope his silly ass tries to run straight up and down on Green Bay. Nick Barnett says that if he doesn't learn to run like a QB and slide or get out of bonds that when he comes to town he is going to teach him.
NY Giants are my pick for the NFC. I am gonna have to wait til next Monday to give you my pick for the AFC. Everything in me says Indianapolis. They are the most well rounded team in the NFL right now. But everytime I bet against Tom Brady I end up having to work overtime to pay off the bets I lose. They guy is just flat out lucky.
#11
Posted 02 November 2005 - 05:05 PM
#12
Posted 02 November 2005 - 05:50 PM
And yes, Vick is extremely overrated. He basically plays on the Atlanta Vicks. Every Falcon game I watch, its Vick this and Vick that. He played horrible against the Jets 2 weeks ago. Dunn's the reason they won. He's an HB in the QB position. I don't think he'd even make it as a fulltime HB. He's so scrawny.
#13
Posted 02 November 2005 - 09:07 PM
"Madden could go out there alone and win every game."
Have got to love old comedy skits.
-Proverbs 4:7
#14
Posted 02 November 2005 - 09:12 PM
Edited by shomer, 02 November 2005 - 09:13 PM.
#15
Posted 03 November 2005 - 06:31 AM
You know something I don't?vick is overrated? haha yeh ok
They say there has never been a QB like him in the league. The name Randall Cunningham ring a bell? He makes Vick look like a high school player. Woohoo Vick ran for 902 yard last year. Big deal Randall in 1990 ran for 942 yards and still managed to pass for 3466 yards completing 58.3% of his passes. Vick threw for 2313 yards and threw as many interceptions as he did touchdowns. Which isn't saying much because he only threw 14 touchdowns.
His numbers as a QB literally suck. He was rated 21st last year. 21 fricken first. The 100 million dollar man couldn't even rank higher then Billy Volek.
Sure he is fun to watch. Exspecially if your on the other team. Last year he was sacked 46 times, threw 12 INT's and fumbled 16 times. That means that on average every game Vick plays he was good for 3 sacks and two fumbles/INT.
And even if you add all his rushing yards and passing yards together for last season (3,215) he is still only ranked 15th overall among QB's last year.
Watch Mike this week. He comes off the snap and plants his feet looking for a running lane. Not many times at all will you see him take a step back in the pocket looking for a passing lane. And when he does run he runs straight up and down trying to take hits. He has already proven with his 19 games missed due to injuries that he is soft. You think by now someone would have shown him were the sideline is or how to slide. Schaub is a better QB then Vick. His numbers speak for him. Given the starting time Mike has had he would of surely surpassed Vick. With a 90.3 rating I don't think I need say much more.
I predict Vick to miss atleast 2 games this season due to injury. If we are lucky someone will break his other leg, and folks will start to see that the 100 MILLION dollar man is truely overrated.
/t Shomer Umm goto www.11alivenews.com and search Crumpler. His team is begining to value him less and less. Many of the recievers are starting to question if he is there for the team or his own Sportcenter highlights.
Edited by Momba, 03 November 2005 - 06:38 AM.
#16
Posted 03 November 2005 - 11:40 AM
qft.You know something I don't?vick is overrated? haha yeh ok
They say there has never been a QB like him in the league. The name Randall Cunningham ring a bell? He makes Vick look like a high school player. Woohoo Vick ran for 902 yard last year. Big deal Randall in 1990 ran for 942 yards and still managed to pass for 3466 yards completing 58.3% of his passes. Vick threw for 2313 yards and threw as many interceptions as he did touchdowns. Which isn't saying much because he only threw 14 touchdowns.
His numbers as a QB literally suck. He was rated 21st last year. 21 fricken first. The 100 million dollar man couldn't even rank higher then Billy Volek.
Sure he is fun to watch. Exspecially if your on the other team. Last year he was sacked 46 times, threw 12 INT's and fumbled 16 times. That means that on average every game Vick plays he was good for 3 sacks and two fumbles/INT.
And even if you add all his rushing yards and passing yards together for last season (3,215) he is still only ranked 15th overall among QB's last year.
Watch Mike this week. He comes off the snap and plants his feet looking for a running lane. Not many times at all will you see him take a step back in the pocket looking for a passing lane. And when he does run he runs straight up and down trying to take hits. He has already proven with his 19 games missed due to injuries that he is soft. You think by now someone would have shown him were the sideline is or how to slide. Schaub is a better QB then Vick. His numbers speak for him. Given the starting time Mike has had he would of surely surpassed Vick. With a 90.3 rating I don't think I need say much more.
I predict Vick to miss atleast 2 games this season due to injury. If we are lucky someone will break his other leg, and folks will start to see that the 100 MILLION dollar man is truely overrated.
/t Shomer Umm goto www.11alivenews.com and search Crumpler. His team is begining to value him less and less. Many of the recievers are starting to question if he is there for the team or his own Sportcenter highlights.
I"d post my thoughts but ih ave to go to school bai
#17
Posted 04 November 2005 - 08:44 PM
vick could end up being like that, or he might not. frankly, i'm tired of hearing everyone whine about whether vick is a good quarterback or not. despite what people say, a good quarterback wins, even if he has to overcome 2 or 3 interceptions to do it. stats don't always tell the story.
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Posted 04 November 2005 - 11:05 PM
#19
Posted 04 November 2005 - 11:10 PM
Name 1 personw ho thinks Joe Namath is more then top 10 QBS ofa ll time, much less the best.again, people point out vick's stats..well several people also believe that joe namath is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game, yet he only threw 173 td passes versus 220 interceptions and completed barely 50% of his passes. his qb rating, by the way, is only 65.4; and these numbers are below average even for the era he played in. he's just famous for his super bowl guarantee imo.
vick could end up being like that, or he might not. frankly, i'm tired of hearing everyone whine about whether vick is a good quarterback or not. despite what people say, a good quarterback wins, even if he has to overcome 2 or 3 interceptions to do it. stats don't always tell the story.
THe best team in the NFL, is a very simple answer. The Colts. Which team has not lost a game, The Colts, Payton Manning is playing great, the running game is going good, and the D Isn't loseing them games anymore, hell they are even winning them games.
The 2nd best team is THe Broncos
3rd: Pit
4th: Cin
5th: Pats(Untill someone knocks off "da champs")
#20
Posted 04 November 2005 - 11:53 PM
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#21
Posted 05 November 2005 - 12:37 AM
On another note, his team is 5-2, thats pretty good, so tell me a better qb in the NFL, and then his record (tom brady is 4-3, Bret Favre is 2-5). And please dont say Eli Manning or Carson Palmer, because Vick, unlike them, has no O-line or recievers, and has been 2 the playoffs twice, including NFC championship game once, they havent done that once yet.
ah the intelligence of combusta, the envy of all nightmist players...
o shut up tony
#22
Posted 05 November 2005 - 12:58 AM
Watch him when he runs. McNabb is a big guy. He outweighs some of the people that bring him down. It points out how friggin girly he is. Pro Bowl selection? Please.
I love the eagles, but based on the way they played Denver, I'd be surprised if they make it to the playoffs. Their west coast offense isn't working, and they have no running game. McNabb HAS the arm to throw the long passes most of the time... but doesnt. He's not taking advantage of the fact that he has TO, who, despite all the criticism, is a damn good reciever.
And thats all I gotta' say 'bout that.
deimos the noob said no
#23
Posted 05 November 2005 - 01:07 AM
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ah the intelligence of combusta, the envy of all nightmist players...
o shut up tony
#24
Posted 05 November 2005 - 01:22 AM
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#25
Posted 05 November 2005 - 01:26 AM
just look at how many people there are that dont even follow football but recognize his name..i'm not saying he was the greatest to ever play, but people see him as a "great" quarterback just because of one game.Name 1 personw ho thinks Joe Namath is more then top 10 QBS ofa ll time, much less the best.again, people point out vick's stats..well several people also believe that joe namath is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game, yet he only threw 173 td passes versus 220 interceptions and completed barely 50% of his passes. his qb rating, by the way, is only 65.4; and these numbers are below average even for the era he played in. he's just famous for his super bowl guarantee imo.
vick could end up being like that, or he might not. frankly, i'm tired of hearing everyone whine about whether vick is a good quarterback or not. despite what people say, a good quarterback wins, even if he has to overcome 2 or 3 interceptions to do it. stats don't always tell the story.
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Posted 05 November 2005 - 01:36 AM
#27
Posted 05 November 2005 - 02:14 AM
Watch some of the plays TO makes... caught a ball and took it down for the big six, 93 yards total. Record for both quarterback and reciever? Mhmm. They need to take advantage of him more, but not just via throwing the ball to him. TO draws double coverage, and people are finally realizing that my boy Westbrook needs some to. Thats 4 people covering 2 guys, someone's gotta be open
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deimos the noob said no
#28
Posted 05 November 2005 - 08:05 AM
lol since when do the giants have a good o-line? granted we have alot of talent on offense, all of that being shockey, toomer, burress, manning, barber, wade, and jacobs, sad to say it but they run the giants offense, with not much help from our o-line, tiki busted out for alot of long, and lucky runs this season, not that im complaining but some were due to missed assignments on defense or just sloppy play.again, Vick is good, and who are u Jim to say if he is good or not, he gets payed 100m a year, u wont get that much money in ur life, i prob wont either.
On another note, his team is 5-2, thats pretty good, so tell me a better qb in the NFL, and then his record (tom brady is 4-3, Bret Favre is 2-5). And please dont say Eli Manning or Carson Palmer, because Vick, unlike them, has no O-line or recievers, and has been 2 the playoffs twice, including NFC championship game once, they havent done that once yet.
obviously my choice is the giants, been a fan since i was 5 lol
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vick is a good qb in his own respect, but, he's also stupid. anyone who takes that many hits a game, plays injured, runs the ball right into coverage as much as he does surely doesnt have a very long career as a starting QB. he can scramble like no other qb dont get me wrong, but its gonna catch up to him eventually.
Edited by Sublime, 05 November 2005 - 08:07 AM.
#29
Posted 05 November 2005 - 03:31 PM
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Posted 05 November 2005 - 05:18 PM
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