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Wondering...
#1
Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:22 PM
ok my question im wondering bout is...
2 yrs + ago, ed was perm-banned for stealing right? every thief was suppose to get one those things for stealing...... why is that not 1 single thief got banned for stealing since ed was the guinnea pig for the perm ban the thieves idea?
yeh alot of u guys can say what u want, but i really would like to kno why ed was the only one that got punished for the stealing, to where ste/corrupted and blake/whoever hes hiding on dont get nothing done to them to where they are like biggest thieves on nm
#2
Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:34 PM
#3
Posted 30 May 2006 - 07:43 PM
either nothing is bannable now in which case alot of old school players could come back and should get their stuff or everyone should get a ban
Edited by Rappy_Ninja, 30 May 2006 - 07:46 PM.
#4
Posted 30 May 2006 - 08:20 PM
its all politics i tell ya!
#5
Posted 30 May 2006 - 08:31 PM
However, all thefts reguardless of whether it was from sharing or not, should be banned. If person a does the stealing and says that "Person B told me I could have this and this and this", person a better have exact logs that matches JLH's logs or person a gets perm banned. Less stress and easy to prove.
#6
Posted 30 May 2006 - 08:41 PM
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#7
Posted 30 May 2006 - 08:46 PM
#8
Posted 30 May 2006 - 09:04 PM
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#9
Posted 30 May 2006 - 09:44 PM
#10
Posted 30 May 2006 - 10:22 PM
#11
Posted 30 May 2006 - 11:43 PM
#12
Posted 31 May 2006 - 12:03 AM
#13
Posted 31 May 2006 - 02:24 AM
my point is simply this... how come noone else gets banned for it?
#14
Posted 31 May 2006 - 02:37 AM
Edited by Ganja, 31 May 2006 - 02:40 AM.
#15
Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:30 AM
and as for ste, i can tell you what ste stole.
ste stole items + crits from troy/blink, troy is just a bigger man and never comes around about it, but thats who he stole from and why people know ste as a thief.
Edited by Lappa, 31 May 2006 - 03:33 AM.
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#16
Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:15 AM
#17
Posted 31 May 2006 - 06:16 AM
On the real tho I was at the "New SGH" and had a conversation about just this very topic. Looking back over the last two year what Ed did seems to have become the norm. There have been alot more serious cases that have simply been ignored or not resolved. Myself having been the victim a couple of times have found that it really comes down to who you know. If your in with staff and have a decent reputation then your problem will be handled. You might not always get the answer your want nor your stuff back based on JLH's finding, but he will address the issue.
We've all heard the don't share speech a thousand times. It doen't help at all. JLH has already said he won't address issues that involve sharing (which is a lie). Mindi had a Serphic Staff removed from my character after realizing I still had it after returning all Joel and Ryan's stuff. The staff was simply overlooked on my part because it was on a character that wasn't often played. I refused to return it to her, but had every intention on returning it to Ryan and Joel. Not even her staff and she was able to manipulate staff into retrieving it. Once again proving it is all who ya know. We all know she has sucked enough cyber turnip to make even Jenna Jamison proud.
Couple point to remember if your going to share. You do run the risk of having your stuff jacked. I don't care if you share with your mother. Greed will consume them. And that is the Nightmist communities fault. We place no value on a persons skill level, honesty, ability to train, or commitment to bettering the game. The only thing of real value to the large majority of Nightmist is who has the most gold and best items. We don't care that Mike (Stotic) could take 4 poorly rolled thieves and own us all, or that Tadpole could take two rangers and run threw the sewers slaughtering whole clans, or that Lyndsey could train huge parties of crits to arch in record time, or that Kim could train a single alt from level 1 to arch in 10 days. Those things don't matter because they don't look good in the Triplex arena when your opponents look you over.
We can blame those who steal for being dishonest thieves, but the big picture is we silently encourage this behavior by belittling those who play the game the way it was ment to be. Nightmist has lost sight of how this game is supposed to be played. many of us have outgrown the game, but instead of thanking JLH and Simon for the few great years that they held our attention and walking away. We sit at the gatehouses and trash talk the game and all who attempt to play it. The recent thefts have been commited by those I view as old timers who have become bored with the game. Just thank JLH and Simon and walk away. Allow the next generation to experience the same joy you found in the game when you started without having to fear being ripped off because your bored and bitter and can't find the strength to push yourself away from the computer.
With all that being said I still think JLH is weak for not just locking this thing down. Zero tolerance is much better then overlooking the problem all together.
#18
Posted 31 May 2006 - 06:31 AM
#19
Posted 31 May 2006 - 07:05 AM
josh + blake = ban pls... so sick of hearing of theives...
and as for ste, i can tell you what ste stole.
ste stole items + crits from troy/blink, troy is just a bigger man and never comes around about it, but thats who he stole from and why people know ste as a thief.
Yeah you want the full story here it is.. I come back today from football camp(
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and i found out imported came back from quitting and was jacked..
by this little brother i have, and live with jacked em
i lose my crit name/ my 2 rangers which i find out he sold to rj for 2 zerks
so there's the scoop.
oh well my brothers locked outa account now, gg
- Josh
Edited by acehardware, 31 May 2006 - 07:07 AM.
#20
Posted 31 May 2006 - 08:39 AM
Edited by Äññöÿäñcë, 31 May 2006 - 08:39 AM.
#21
Posted 31 May 2006 - 09:30 AM
Yeah you want the full story here it is.. I come back today from football camp(
)and found out my rangers were traded , my main crit name (dilusion) gone
and i found out imported came back from quitting and was jacked..
by this little brother i have, and live with jacked em
i lose my crit name/ my 2 rangers which i find out he sold to rj for 2 zerks
so there's the scoop.
oh well my brothers locked outa account now, gg
- Josh
the "It wasn't me, it was someone on my computer" excuse got used up by blake x100
i dont think its a good enough reason anymore
Property of Jessica
#22
Posted 31 May 2006 - 09:44 AM
My personal problem is, sharing or hacking, it seems remarkably difficult to trace where crits came from. If I could simply look back at a crit to see which account it was in previously, it would be a piece of cake to determine if it was stolen or not. But as I could not, I had to rely on intellect and evidence (which is all too easy to fabricate sometimes).
Try to keep the swearing and personal accusations out of the topic, please.
Main crits:
Crane
Europa
Don't kill the
#23
Posted 31 May 2006 - 09:55 AM
#24
Posted 31 May 2006 - 10:31 AM
#25
Posted 31 May 2006 - 10:43 AM
Apply that to NM please.
Hansol ingame
#26
Posted 31 May 2006 - 12:17 PM
I've had to clean this thread three times now. Anything else in this thread that is abusive or that bypasses the forum filter will result in a forum ban and an ingame dayban.
Judging by the above a few ppl are gonna get banned
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Edited by Prophet, 31 May 2006 - 12:18 PM.
#27
Posted 31 May 2006 - 01:57 PM
It has been recently discovered that the reason Ed was perm banned was because he had a job and was controled by Nightmist. JLH and Pandilex knew that Ed would pay to get back, so they used him as an example. Turns out it was a win lose situation for them. They won in that each profited a small amount of money for letting Ed back. They lost because they thought it would slow/stop down the theft issues in Nightmist. I say we let the sleeping dog die. JLH and Simon can never step forward to speak for themselves on the issue because they would either have to lie which would only bring more flaming or tell the truth which could prevent them from making profits on Dark Strata. Oh wait that isn't coming out, my bad.
jim, neither of us paid simon to let us back, i played the whole time we were banned and had a even bigger acct then our banned acct, did u ever stop and think me bein friends wit simon got ed unbanned? no, u go on bout ed payin to be unbanned which is total bs lol...
#28
Posted 31 May 2006 - 05:53 PM
I agree totally with Exodia. Even though sharing is not supported in the game, legally if it shows in the logs that those crits were stolen and transferred and they legally belonged to someone else, its STEALING, regardless its still a crime, Ste gets away with alot of things, that is simply how he has his arches now. Alot of people would like it, if all their crits were email protected.
LMMFAO And you rely on bill for archs.... which is worse lmmfao go die plz
#29
Posted 31 May 2006 - 05:57 PM
Property of Jessica
#30
Posted 31 May 2006 - 05:57 PM
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