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[Element]

yea im not sure if i even heard right but one of nightmists members might have throwen the second round or something so their team lost and the other team won(letting their friend win), neways the point is its not right and i think if ur going to throw an event that you shouldnt be aloud back in, im not sure what neone else thinks about this or if this system is already in place if so just go head and delete my post but i really think its bull that someone waits the whole week to join this 1 even that most people cant even get in(i never get in im just not fast enough) and when they are lucky enough to not get teamed with a lvl 25 they get teamed with a cheater/hishonest player. neways tell me what yall think about this thanks.

[Da_J_Mooney]

That's just how the luck part of the triplex works, if you dont come out with a good team, ur SoL and you lose. Same thing with 'cheaters' as you call them, you're just unlucky that way. Its just a game, and yeah, there will be another one next week, and if you only live your life for that hour of time a week, you really need to be banned yourself. I understand it's frustrating, I'd be pretty ticked too, but oh well, I'll have another chance next week.

[deadman]

You join the event to compete screw what team you got you join to compete u fight it out no matter what teams are or who you are against.

People that throw the triplex or hit there own team deserve something an i think a dayban would be fit that way they wont want to do it.

[ChainSaw]

I personally do not see this as cheating. I would call it being smart. Also in my opinion this post should not exist. You have made a unfounded statement. There is no factual basis for the question or presented answers because there is no rule against which means no cheating is done and no punishment should be given.

Edited by ChainSaw, 08 December 2004 - 12:15 AM.

[EvilDognapot]

i used to do triplex often, and i can't recall ever being in one where that didn't happen. i always thought it wasn't exactly fair but for the sake of time (since 1 on 1 rounds were cut) it can't be fixed.

edit: hitting your own team shouldn't be cheating, especially if you off them. i've done that to people throwing the match for me. it's a meaningless but earned, and symbolic victory where victories are almost never earned.

Edited by EvilDognapot, 08 December 2004 - 12:27 AM.

[newb]

Oh man, I remember the best triplex scandal in the world.

Good times Matt.

[Gaddy]

Well, I think it's rather poor form, very poor. Other than that...-shrug-

[Amy]

Well, I wasn't in this particular triplex so I don't know what happened.. Doesn't seem to be very good sportsmanship from what posts I have seen.

In my opinion, any character, regardless of clan affiliation and/or alignment, should have a sense of honor. People can learn to duel/fight better by watching other people, people can learn from practicing and trial and error. The one thing that another can not take from you is your honor and your word. To each their own I suppose. I personally, would want to know that those within my own team were rooting for the current team itself. Regardless of who is across from them in an arena.

Those who bend the unspoken rules, will be remembered though. It may be the next time that they are sideswiped by a teammate, who they just happened to knock off the time before. Usually, what comes around goes around. Banning them won't work.. and since it isn't actually a written rule, would be totally unfair to ban them.

Just my two cents...
Good day,
Amy of Draco

[Epic]

I was in it, i was on the opposite team that had the "cheater". He was just helping out his clan i guess and thats what the whole point of having a clan is, to help you out whenever possible *shrug* , it happens...it happens

[Matt]

Oh man, I remember the best triplex scandal in the world.

Good times Matt.

My memory is foggy, not sure if you're talking about me.. but if I remember correctly I attacked my own team member a longggg time ago and buffed the other team who had a friend in it.. and then everyone was bitching and started making posts. good times

on topic, I don't think this should be cheating, if you don't want to be teamed with noobs or people who want the other team to win, go join the Prof tourny.

Anyway, if someone is willing to let themselves die and not have a chance to win just to let their friend(s) through, so be it. more power to them.

Edited by Matt, 08 December 2004 - 04:39 AM.

[Pandilex]

Rather hard to enforce though, if the person decides to accidentally forget to heal / attacks the wrong person etc. to deceive people into thinking they're helping whilst actually trying to do the minimum to get away with not looking like "cheating"... this is undoubtedly what would happen if you enforced it, and then you'd have the difficulty of trying to draw the line...

[Sean]

Rather hard to enforce though, if the person decides to accidentally forget to heal / attacks the wrong person etc. to deceive people into thinking they're helping whilst actually trying to do the minimum to get away with not looking like "cheating"... this is undoubtedly what would happen if you enforced it, and then you'd have the difficulty of trying to draw the line...

Make it nopk everyone in your team? And to take it even further make it so you cannot heal members of the other team. Then you would be able to see the cheaters are the ones who are not attacking.

[Wind]

Nod

[Prophet]

I don't see the problem with not fighting them, as in real life your not going to want to kill your friend you would refuse to fight him.

[shomer]

I think if someone is caught cheating, they should get a dayban and also banned from triplex forever. Daybans might keep people who otherwise wouldnt join the triplex from joining just to throw the round.

[Chewbob]

I don't see the problem with not fighting them, as in real life your not going to want to kill your friend you would refuse to fight him.

In real life your friend won't respawn at his local pub.

[Lady_Maha]

I don't see the problem with not fighting them, as in real life your not going to want to kill your friend you would refuse to fight him.

The triplex is a tournament, not a fight situation as would happen outside of town somewhere. Look at it like you and your friends joining a sports event. You might have to play against each other, but you can still be friends afterwards. Medieval time jousts friends often sparred against each other as well.

[Egbert]

1. It's unfair, and people like that should not join the Triplex in the first place, because it's a cruel and mean thing to do.

2. These people should not be punished by bannagment (oo! new word) unless someone wrote the rule, neither should they be banned from the triplex.

3. Good Punishments:

The next time you see him, kill him.
If you see him again, kill him!
If you see him again, kill him!
If you see him again, kill him!
If you see him again, kill him!
etc.

Declare war on his clan.


OR we could just write a rule that says that you must attack, and make sure you can't heal the other team or attack your team.

OR we could just forget about it.

[Exodia]

wow u people need to stfu, stop crying about it, if they are hitting you, kill em, if your so godly as to bish and moan about new rules, then maybe you should be godly enough to kill all 4 of em urself. its a game, live with it, people lag out, should they be daybanned also? because their internet connection cannot handle the packet rate?

as simon said, its totally untraceable, and the amount of code to make it so you cannot hit ur team members/heal enemy team, is alot for an event which is run out of the kindness of JLH's/Oracles heart, you keep saying they allow cheating, i doubt the kindness is going to be there.. let the triplex stay as it is, not every round/triplex have ppl who do this, its just a randomly occuring thing.

[ChainSaw]

LMAO, Chewbob, HELLO! get a clue bud nm is not real life . Anyways, i don't see what your all talking about "cheating". There is not a rule against it. That means they are just being smart about it.

If you all are going to cry so much about a even, on a game, maybe they should just take it away... take every thing away. Pt, Moshes, and all other events.

And people wonder why staff don't log on much.

[Lady_Maha]

Umm, hello ChainSaw, Chewbob posted his rl comment to point out to Prophet that NM wasn't rl, so read the quote he replied to as well.

Now my two cents to the whole "there isn't a rule saying you can't" crap:

There are a lot of things in the game that aren't covered by rules, yet decency and common sense dictate certain actions. In the triplex you get TEAMED up with other people. A TEAM is supposed to work together, not against each other, so I do consider players who attack their own teammates or heal the opposing team cheaters, no matter how often you or anyone else call me a whiner.

Also, please take note that nobody is really accusing staff, heaven knows which of you got that idea. I blame the players, and nobody else. What happens in triplex is a reflection of the whole of NM lately. More and more people show no sign of decency, thinking that cheating/lying/stealing is fine simply because it doesn't get punished, and I am starting to wonder how few are left in this game that actually know the meaning of the words honor and dignity anymore.

Let me use an example from my own country for a moment. A while back we had a scandalous case of cannibalism, where a guy searched and found a willing dinner on the internet. The guy agreed to be eaten, fully aware of the consequences, so it wasn't a murder case. We soon came to find out we had no actual law forbidding cannibalism in Germany. However, just because there was no law covering it, it didn't make it right. Sometimes you simply have to apply reason and common sense, even if things aren't written down in stone.

[Element]

Rather hard to enforce though, if the person decides to accidentally forget to heal / attacks the wrong person etc. to deceive people into thinking they're helping whilst actually trying to do the minimum to get away with not looking like "cheating"... this is undoubtedly what would happen if you enforced it, and then you'd have the difficulty of trying to draw the line...

i know it would be hard to decide that but there is a staff member watching the fighting right? and i mean it should be pretty easy to tell if your attacking your own team or healing the other team? i mean i can understand attacking the wrong person but healing the other team or attackin ur team is just bs

[Tom]

triplex isnt just about who the best character is its also the most popular, if your so hated that your team throw the match then accept it not much you can do.

p.s.
the poll options are a lil leading arnt they?

p.s.2
All the people moaning are nubs, by my observation.

Edited by Tom, 09 December 2004 - 01:17 PM.

[Lady_Maha]

Ah yes, Tom, all the people complaining are nubs, because nubs still have enough honor not to cheat... I forgot all about that unwritten NM rule.

Edit: I apologize for not yet having ditched my sense of what is right or wrong, I will work on it though. Maybe I should start by ripping off the occasional idiot who is willing to share accounts with me. Then I will take all the stolen crits and go out pking, calling other people nubs and ezpk in the hopes I won't be a nub anymore.

Edited by Lady_Maha, 09 December 2004 - 02:04 PM.

[Tom]

Edit: I apologize for not yet having ditched my sense of what is right or wrong, I will work on it though. Maybe I should start by ripping off the occasional idiot who is willing to share accounts with me. Then I will take all the stolen crits and go out pking, calling other people nubs and ezpk in the hopes I won't be a nub anymore.

thats a start.


(bit late to start at your age tho eh?)

Edited by Tom, 09 December 2004 - 03:04 PM.

[Lady_Maha]

Yes, I agree... I guess I'd rather stay a nub. For some reason I'm rather attached to my morals.

[Tom]

im not saying u cant have morals and be a good player im just saying that its the nubs complaining, as if they deserve to win anyway?

[Lady_Maha]

Well, I complained too, even though I didn't participate in this particular round, so it makes me a nub.

Edited by Lady_Maha, 09 December 2004 - 03:39 PM.

[Drac]

as simon said, its totally untraceable

not.. entirely...

all youd have to do is monitor their chat for the next 10 mins.. especially clan chat. You know theyd have to blab it sooner or later.

[Crane]

as simon said, its totally untraceable

not.. entirely...

all youd have to do is monitor their chat for the next 10 mins.. especially clan chat. You know theyd have to blab it sooner or later.

That might work for a while, but the crits in use may be logged off after Triplex, or the players will learn (after a few people are caught) to keep their mouths shut!