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[Kalados]

Anybody got ideas on how to effectively lure people into our justice zones for the purpose of getting us pks?

Now I am just as helpful towards new players as the next time, but when it comes to pk's ill take my fair share. Any ideas are welcome.

[Bean]

Plain and simple.

Dont.

Wanna pk? Make a ranger or a zerk, and a cleric to pk with.

[Crane]

Pacifists are non-violent people, and they should not deceive. The only times I use Justice Zone is for the protection of others, usually when fighting the Demonic General. The most interesting case was when a Pacifist raised Justice Zone so we could hold a wedding ceremony in the meadow without the risk of someone killing the bride!

[Kalados]

Your no fun lol.

[Silverwizard]

Ahh Yes I remember that wedding, I was supposed to hold the justive zone as the priest but then we had to move since you started killing bunnies GRRR. So Charon held it due to stamina constraints.

[Crane]

Hey, I didn't start killing them. I only said "Are the bunnies invited?", and someone obviously thought not!

[Silverwizard]

Crane Crane Crane. "Crane attack a bunny with a pike, killing it" I would say that qualifies as an attack . Anyway I am just teasing you. I personally hurt not a hare on the bunny's heads.

(Yes I do not know I spelled hair wrong).

[Crane]

Ahem... I have a Justice Blade - I never owned a Pike.

[alone]

And it's 'attacked'.. Not 'attack'.. -sighs-

Great to see attention to detail when proving people wrong..


The best bet is to spring cast it on people in a fight..

[Kalados]

thanks alone.

[Silverwizard]

Hmm, I thought it was you that used that pike, hmm, dunno, I saw a pike wielded, thought it said Crane, sorry.

[Crane]

It's okay - it's in the past now.

More on subject, I recently raised Justice Zone in a middle of a firefight between two low-level crits to the South of Nightmist. Everyone was saying thank you and such and I was healing them voluntarily and on request (mainly because my Deity got in the way of their attacks), but the real PK'er was waiting, very patiently. The moment I dropped Justice Zone three minutes later, he struck his target and claimed his trophy! Oops!

[strahd]

I find that justice zone is good for pks... although most of the time the people that you are around find out that you have casted it and stop attacking. i normally wait for someone to start attacking again, then let em have it. But...for those who are non-agressive players it works out wellalso, by saving them from being pkd by an agressor.

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be yourself...its better to be hated for who you are,than to be loved for someone your not.

[Eamon]

Simple as this for pks, have a friend cast invis on you with a mage, and stay there on bait, and let the pkers come to you, if youre on one arch fighter south of Nightmist, and a mid level mage, none of the pkers are gonna stop themselves from hitting on that fighter, but they didnt see the invisible pacifist.

[The Matrix]

Crane, on May 1 2004, 03:28 PM, said:

Pacifists are non-violent people, and they should not deceive. The only times I use Justice Zone is for the protection of others, usually when fighting the Demonic General. The most interesting case was when a Pacifist raised Justice Zone so we could hold a wedding ceremony in the meadow without the risk of someone killing the bride!

Now Eamon

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Simple as this for pks, have a friend cast invis on you with a mage, and stay there on bait, and let the pkers come to you, if youre on one arch fighter south of Nightmist, and a mid level mage, none of the pkers are gonna stop themselves from hitting on that fighter, but they didnt see the invisible pacifist.

Now do those two quotes clash?

[Rappy_Ninja]

Eamon, on Aug 16 2004, 11:52 AM, said:

Simple as this for pks, have a friend cast invis on you with a mage, and stay there on bait, and let the pkers come to you, if youre on one arch fighter south of Nightmist, and a mid level mage, none of the pkers are gonna stop themselves from hitting on that fighter, but they didnt see the invisible pacifist.

remove pacifists and then the game is fine again

[Charon]

The Practical Use of Justice Zone should be to protect others.
It should not be to get pks
Maybe it is, but it shouldn't be.

In all honesty I don't see the point in profiling pk's on pacifists. Pacifists shouldn't be trying to get pks, one because they're peaceful and two because it just makes people really annoyed, at which point they start posting anti-pacifist protests on the forums.

If there were no way of counting, like there never used to be, I'm sure most people would stop trying.
In my mind, there is no pride or honour in tricking someone into dieing so a pacifist can get a pk in their profile. They're meant to be helping people by protecting and/or healing them...

And just because some pacifists are sneaky doesn't mean they should be, and doesn't mean that all of us are. Sometimes some of the pacifists are sneaky, yes. It's fun sometimes... but not all the time.

There's no logic in deleting pacifists just because some people exploit the loopholes. So long as they're there, people will. The way to fix the problem is to block up said loopholes.

Wouldn't it be possible to simply code it so invisible can't be cast on pacifists instead?

[Rappy_Ninja]

for something supposedly being so friendly they subdue all your alts when your training steal your kills if they can gp you so you cant attack bosses/train and lower jz so their friends can get all their stam off then they have another paci to put it back up



pacis are JUST used for pking or being agressive only like 2% of pacis go around helping people

[Someone]

I don't really help or hurt(isn't that really the point of a Paci?), I just do my own thing. I do not steal kills generally, the only time I have was when the same person had just stole mine so I feel no guilt for doing so.

[Rappy_Ninja]

well lemme tell ya it happens alot

[Someone]

I'd believe that. I've had people yell at me because they rounded themselves on me o.O I wasn't even looking at the screen and I get an angry page from some guy who rounded himself and then nearly did the same to his alt.

I do think people abuse the powers of Pacis including JZ, though I think if they're used just for exploring and actually keep to the role of being a 'pacifist' they are a nice part of the game adding more variety to the nightmist world. I don't think there's anything wrong with using JZ to stop PKing of others, as Pacis are suppose to be nonviolent...But to do it to purposefully gain PKs seems contradictory to the pacifist role. But I think it's pretty fair to bet as long as there is a way to exploit Pacifist powers there will be those who will continue to do it.