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#31 Achilles

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 08:18 PM

I never agreed that posts should be deleted. I'm just wondering why people seem to get worked up every time and think they all bring the solution but don't seem to realize that most of their solutions come from within their own messed up view point. I already said earlier on this thread that I realize it's more of a venting place then anything else, so I'm not judging anyone for their opinions.

But as far as stamina count goes, as in your example, has nothing to do with opinions. You have 8 references (other classes) for every decision you make on one particular class. The things that lack to put this references in effect are ground rules. Ground rules are easily made by taken into account the role playing aspect. Fighter should win 80% of open fight against thief. Berserker should win 70% of open fight against fighter. Of course this is as shallow as can be, as there are a lot of other factors included. But it is how you secure the platform, then every new addition/update can, where needed, run through these ground rules (laws) and the outcome will show you where tweaking needs to be done.

Just because you don't see immediate action taken (as of when the idea for the new server started) doesn't mean things aren't heard. As far as Walt goes, he tends to go a little overboard, with the whole "stfu" in font size 7. Discussions are great, personal attacks and pushing people into heated convo's are not. This doesn't mean that I don't occasionally do the same, but I try not to argue with the obvious outcome of that.


I dont really think that was the case in this situation. Posts being deleted arent based on people's view points being skewed. In the case of the experience cap being turned off I didnt see how anyone's views were skewed other than scripto's, prophet's, wind's, and gaddy's. They all wanted the cap to stay on because they didnt think it was "fair" to lose the same exp as 1alters. We posted our opinion on why their logic was wrong and obviously had more people's "messed up" viewpoints disagreeing with staff than not. But instead of letting us discuss something fully, mark decides to lock the topic. I dont see how you can judge this situation based on this one event. People have been complaining about this for months upon months.

I have to disagree with your opinion yet again. It is opinion that 8stam shouldnt be added. Weather i present flawless facts or not there will be people pushing that thieves should keep the 8th stamina. In the same way that everyone was presenting "flawless" facts about why the exp cap should be taking off. That worked well...

While it is good to try to steer clear of heated arguments, we dont live in a perfect world and everytime there is a discussion period there is a good possibility that some form of argument will ensue. It happens. But i find it funny people have "the sack", as walt put it, to post about how walt goes overboard, but nobody has the self-assurance to do the same about staff. They arent immortal. They are wrong too. And i know for a fact im not the only one that agrees with walt about gaddy possessing a "holier than though attitude". Im sure this will cause someone to feel that i am personally attacking staff. But im really not. Im just posting what should be adjusted. Maybe staff will disagree with me, but that doesnt mean that my viewpoint is garbage and should be deleted.

Edited by Achilles, 10 May 2009 - 08:19 PM.


#32 Tietsu

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 11:29 PM

I would like to vote Achilles for Forum Police. Take away all of staff, because Ryan's got this nuts on lock.

#33 Gaddy

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 12:40 AM

Gaddy probably won't appreciate me talking on his behalf, but his main role seems to be my former role... policing the forums, so if you challenge him or any moderator to delete your post under penalty of being reported to JLH, he may just call your bluff. He may want nothing to do with 1-alt, but he still wishes to keep the forums clean and tidy, no matter what the origin of the debate is.

You are allowed to debate and state opinions - heck, I've said a few uncolourful things about the game, but I avoid directing it at any particular person or group whenever I can; when you attack a person or group in particular, then it turns from a debate into slander. Trying to win an argument by attacking a person's character rather than what they've actually got to say also has its own metaphor... it is known as 'poisoning the well'.

Be honest... if you knew nothing about Nightmist, but stumbled upon this website and decided to look at the forum to see what it was all about, how do you think you would react if you read a topic like this one? I think I would take my gaming talents elsewhere without a second thought.



Bingo.
This topic is locked since it's gone even further off-topic.


It is rather annoying to delete posts. The forum makes you go one-by-one, refreshing the page every time you delete a post, etc.
I don't care to do it all that much, it's a hassle. However, it's forced by players sometimes.
I would lean more towards warning/banning instead of post deletion, but players have multiple forum accounts, and very little is done about that. Perhaps extended in-game bans would help.


I've warned or warned and locked a few of the people who decided to continue to push the topic towards nonsense instead of helping discuss the problems and difficulties facing 1-Alt play as that was the point of the topic.


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