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#1 Horny

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 03:53 PM

Ok so, i joined an antidrug campain thingy, and i need people's help. so, this thing i'm in is for informing and preventing the consume of drugs. ok so, i got some questions for the nightmist comunity...

1. What are the causes (in your opinion) that kids start to you drugs?
2. What are the posible solutions for this problem?
3. Why should we stop them?
4. What could someone do to stop kids from doing drugs?
5. Do you know any books or articles written by scientist/doctors or w/e that talk about this thingy...?

So, this is serious so please answer the questions seriously....
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Posted 09 November 2005 - 04:05 PM

1. Some do it because others do it. Some do it to be cool(the kind of people who always go "I'm Stoned"). Others just do it cuz they like the high.

2. Education... other than that every individual has to make the choice.

3. You can't as i said above its there individual choice and if they say "yes" well then they are going to do it no matter what you do. The only hope is making sure they make a educated decision.

4. see above

5. NORML is a political activist site(group like nra or ama but for diffrent purposes than those groups) um what kind of stuff you actually looking for?
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Posted 09 November 2005 - 04:50 PM

I'm not sure that I could give examples on how to stop kids from using drugs, since I was pretty bad with them when I was younger. I think the main thing that will decide if a certain kid will use drugs or not is who they are hanging out with. I started young because I was around older kids that did them all the time. The last 2 years of high school, I started hanging out with a dfferent crowd and stopped doing them all together, haven't used em since.

I also wanted to say I think it's awesome what you're doing and that you care enough to take time out of your life to help kids. Nice job, hope it works.

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 05:29 PM

I do them when im pissed or depressed, helps me forget about the stuff bothering me....
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Posted 09 November 2005 - 11:09 PM

1. I say to fit in with the crowd. Just because. Maybe because they suck at life. (I really hate when other's say.. "You started it because so and so did!")
2. Addiction may be hard.. but, fight it. Remember, there's always someone else out there who has it worse than you do. Just say.. "NO!".
3. Hello?!?! It's harmful. Drugs are for losers. Find something else besides narcotics to get into when things aren't going your way.
4. I don't think it's possible. It's not possible to baby-sit your children 24/7 and watch every move they make.
5. No, it's my opinion.
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Posted 10 November 2005 - 03:57 AM

I used to do it when I had to stay up to finish something, or when I was bothered about something.

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 04:11 AM

Rofl go figure, this morning when i was on i read Di talking about how much she needs her cigs, but she made the wise choice and said, "o well, ill live"

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 09:33 PM

1. I say to fit in with the crowd. Just because. Maybe because they suck at life. (I really hate when other's say.. "You started it because so and so did!")
2. Addiction may be hard.. but, fight it. Remember, there's always someone else out there who has it worse than you do. Just say.. "NO!".
3. Hello?!?! It's harmful. Drugs are for losers. Find something else besides narcotics to get into when things aren't going your way.
4. I don't think it's possible. It's not possible to baby-sit your children 24/7 and watch every move they make.
5. No, it's my opinion.

if dont speak from experiance then you really dont know what your talking about not everyone does drugs to fit into a crowd, like i didnt none of my friends even done any drugs when i started and i started because gettin high looked fun,
but i agree with whoeva «¤ºxXl3úÐXxº¤» is , you cant stop them from taken them but them having an educated decision it may help them stay away from harder drugs.

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:31 PM

It doesn't matter what you do, kids will continue to do them. Unless the death penalty was put on anyone doing any kind of illegal drug or O.D.'ing. Even police do them, and they're the most educated and definatly not supposed to, so, don't even bother, you're wasting your time.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 02:50 AM

1. I say to fit in with the crowd. Just because. Maybe because they suck at life. (I really hate when other's say.. "You started it because so and so did!")
2. Addiction may be hard.. but,  fight it. Remember, there's always someone else out there who has it worse than you do. Just say.. "NO!".
3. Hello?!?! It's harmful. Drugs are for losers. Find something else besides narcotics to get into when things aren't going your way.
4. I don't think it's possible. It's not possible to baby-sit your children 24/7 and watch every move they make.
5. No, it's my opinion.

if dont speak from experiance then you really dont know what your talking about not everyone does drugs to fit into a crowd, like i didnt none of my friends even done any drugs when i started and i started because gettin high looked fun,
but i agree with whoeva «¤ºxXl3úÐXxº¤» is , you cant stop them from taken them but them having an educated decision it may help them stay away from harder drugs.

I happen to be speaking from experience. I've smoked pot before. Pot wasn't an addiction to me. Other than that.. I've tried nothing hardcore nor plan on it. I have better sense than that.
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Posted 11 November 2005 - 06:26 AM

Rofl go figure, this morning when i was on i read Di talking about how much she needs her cigs, but she made the wise choice and said, "o well, ill live"

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here im talking bout narcotics, not normal drugs like coffee/cigs
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Posted 11 November 2005 - 04:14 PM

Marijuana is good, harder drugs are bad :(
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Posted 11 November 2005 - 04:32 PM

honestly, i started doing drugs to fit in, but after awhile it just became more of a "ill try anything once" kinda thing. Most people i know now smoke pot to fall asleep, because its not even considered a drug around here. Most people dont get high off pot anymore, they've moved on to smoking hash and oil. Doing drugs now for me, its to get away and forget things, its just to have fun in a different way, im not saying i shoot up herion and smoke some rock. I do, do other things, that are pretty bad. The hardest thing i ever did was a blotter, its a lil peice of carboard with a drop of chemicals on it, u hullenciate and your just mooseed for 8 hours straight. It was a pretty bad experience, which id never do again. I try them just to try them, i only live once, so why not try something different, and if i dont care for it i wont do it again.

Honestly, getting rid of the drug world, is impossible. Every kid is going to have acess to anything. Theres not much you can do to keep kids from doing it. Although what messed me up the most was finiding out the side effects or what could happen if your on it. So i stopped doing a certain drug before it killed me, so maybe if you educate on the effects of drugs, like if u drive it into the minds of kids, it might freak them out a little bit. Like when i was taking extasy, i found out, it eats away at your spinal coloumn for the rest of your life, so i said no effin way. So i quit it.

We should stop drugs mainly because there harmful, i mean taking them is a great experience but its so hard on the body. Like i dont even want to know the damage its done to my body, or how many years its taken off my life.

Drugs more or else depend on the person, and your personaility, like i dont have an addictive personailty so when i took blow(cocaine) for the first time, i wasnt hooked to it, i didnt care for it at all, and i did it once and only once. I told my friends if anything goes up my nose again, i find new friends. Not everyone is able to do that, my buddies friend recently went 7 days on speed, speed makes u loose an appetite,so u dont eat, and u sweat alot on it, because your so damn active, so u get dehydrated faster than ever. So after 7 days her body gave out on her and she was dead if no one found her. So basically it all depends on the person. If you educate kids on what they do to you, and the life you will probably lead with them, then maybe it will have an effect.

So all in all, ive tried most drugs and ive dropped most of them because i educated myself on them.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 10:06 PM

http://www.erowid.org

Has all the effects, good and bad on it, so you decide weather there's anything you want to do. Maybe I shouldn't put this link here, I guess I may be tossing around drugs basically. Most of the crap is legal though, I saw some weird stuff I'd never even possibly think would be able to be a drug.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:17 AM

if dont speak from experiance then you really dont know what your talking about

I just wanted to briefly point out how moronic and flawed that logic is. Due to a recent arguement I had with someone, this particualar statement caught my attention. I hope after a brief examination of it you realize why it is so moronic.

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 12:24 PM

My attitude towards drugs is pretty uncompromising. Everything from alcohol and cigarettes to heroin and ecstasy is, in my eyes, harmful. Yeah i know they say a glass of wine a day is good for you blah blah blah, but alcohol wrecks so many lives, and people just treat it like it's all fine and dandy.

Anyway. I've noticed a few good posts already here, and some slightly flawed arguments. What kuniva says about educating people so they really know the issues (ecstasy eats your spinal column etc) is a pretty neat idea. But then i have a mate who is so hooked that you can say anything, and it won't stop him. And basically, he's permanently damaged himself mentally. Even when he's not high during the day it's like he's not all there, he says and does some totally irrational things that normal people wouldn't even consider.

And to put it simply, there's other ways to have a great time. Take up a sport (i recommend surfing), get involved with your community, fall in love with someone! :(

Oh and surely, if more people put something back into the local community, then there's more for kids to do, therefore there's less boredom and less incentive to start using drugs. Win-win situation really :ph34r:
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 06:27 PM

I love to drink. Is it bad for me yes. Do i drink and drive...NO. Do I drink and argue or fight no. Have I dont all those things before....yes. Im not proud of them, but I have drank, done drugs, pillaged and plundered as I saw fit at those specific times in my life. Drugs of any kind are harmful and yes that includes freaking marijuana. But the problem with drugs is the same as it is with guns, with fast food, with tempers. With life in general. Its the people that are doing them that cause the problems. If people learned to do ANYTHING in moderation, then drugs wouldnt be such a big problem. Same as with being overweight and eating fast food, candy, etc. Dont blame the drugs solely. YOU are the one who ingests them. You are the one who buys them illegally. It does not matter whether you agree with society/your goverment/whatever. They ARE illegal and they ARE illegal for a reason. Because of all the idiots in the world who abuse them, and all the lives that have been ruined because of them. Just because YOU can do them in moderation or YOU see some "good" side to drugs doesnt mean that you are so special that you earned the right to do them. Anyways beyond all this rambling I have a point. Drugs are bad. Period. Im sure its wonderful that marijuana helps your headaches or whatever blah blah blah but the nuts is still bad for you. You can lie to yourself for the rest of your life if you want, but that doesnt change nuts. Just as it doesnt change the fact that beyond laws or whatever else governing you, you will still choose to do whatever you wish. All I can say as advice coming from someone who has done an assload of drugs and drinking in there lifetime is for the love of god, do it in moderation, and do it in your own home where your choices wont affect other people.
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 10:24 PM

Legalize pot, keep cigs and alcohol the way they are. if some one wants to do it in there own home on there own time thats thier problem. Who are you(anyone who says to not legalize) to tell another individual what to do. The right to swing your fist stops when you hit another person in the face. If some one breaks the laws applied bust um but make it legal and get off pplz nuts if they do it in private.
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Posted 18 November 2005 - 11:55 PM

Who are you to tell another individual what to do


Laws are laws for a reason. Some people might not agree with, but the majority are good laws that make sense. Who are you to tell another individual what to do, that kind of thinking can lead to even more serious nuts.

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Posted 19 November 2005 - 01:17 AM

Who are you to tell another individual what to do


Laws are laws for a reason. Some people might not agree with, but the majority are good laws that make sense. Who are you to tell another individual what to do, that kind of thinking can lead to even more serious nuts.

lol. But if you're english then you will know that the law is law and the law is nutse because it's too corrupted with people in the house of lords being the smartest brains in the country but instead of just having power in that area, they are also part of every mooseer else so they can persuade everything in they're favour just to get what they want... This is just an example...

But the english legal system needs seperating... the americans legal system knows where it's at. But the english.. well they mooseed it up and it took them from 1898 till 1966 to sort the mooseer out... But other than that... The english OWN at everything else... Apart from torture... Which could be seen in my next point.

Drugs are bad, but you cant stop people from doing it until you SHOW the kids whats gonna happen face to face... But i'm against testing on animals so dont use no animals to show em. What you gotta do is get some scum ass potato who's raped a few people or killed a few people. Put him in a bullet proof glass room. and have people who have Tried drugs and think it'd be cool to do it some more to watch this guy get injected with something like heroin and watch the effects... Hopefully the scum will die.. and this will influence the kids not to do drugs... there for all your other questions aint needed... Cause death is something i dont want to come to quickly...

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Posted 19 November 2005 - 01:47 AM

fall in love with someone! :(

I just wanted to say that's a really good way to get pushed into to drugs, not avoid them :ph34r:

The American government is plenty screwed up...I don't know anything about the English system (aside from the measurements), but our goverment is pretty much run by money, and most of us don't have it.

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Posted 19 November 2005 - 02:31 AM

I'm in Australia, not Britain, so I'm speaking from my point of view. I was merely pointing out that that kind of thinking will lead to trouble. It's somewhat anarchist if you look at it in the right way (or wrong way heh)

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Posted 19 November 2005 - 08:28 PM

wow, thank you all, some of u are retards, but some stuff actually helped. tyyyy! :(
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